In orca if you go into terminal then temporarily turn orca off then do:
spd-say "Hello World!\n"
Do you get any speech?
If yes, turn orca back on then run spd-conf in that user terminal.
You want a new configuration and you want a user configuration.
One of the choices on the next prompts should be for espeak-ng.
take that choice.
alsa should be another choice to take.
Then test everything and see what comes back
I think what's going on is speech-dispatcher thinks you only have orca
running on your system and doesn't yet know about espeak-ng.
There may also be a connector package espeak-ng needs so it can work.
Some users don't like linux installing dependency packages and if you are
one of them you could have got yourself into this kind of trouble if the
connector package wasn't installed.
Probably by tomorrow I'll be getting one or more answers back from the
speakup list in which case we'll get this sorted out for you.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory
> /lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic
>
> --David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM
> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then.
>
>
>
> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
> >
> > Still no speech, insmod still fails
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
> > To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be
> > insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no
> > speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
> > make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
> > defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
> > > directory
> > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
> > > directory
> > >
> > > however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
> > > speakup-soft?]
> > >
> > > speakup_soft 16384 1
> > > speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
> > > To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > >
> > > Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
> > > defense of liberty:
> > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
> > > > update
> > > that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but
> > > I am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I
> > > was about 2 clean installs ago ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> > > > System:
> > > > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
> > > > pty
> > > pts/0
> > > > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> > > > systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
> > > > speech output for Speakup
> > > > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
> > > > enabled; vendor
> > > preset: enabled)
> > > > Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC;
> > > > 9min
> > ago
> > > > Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > > > Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> > > status=0/SUCCESS)
> > > > Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
> > > --default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> > > > Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> > > > Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> > > > Memory: 10.5M
> > > > CPU: 183ms
> > > > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > > > ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
> > > >
> > > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
> > > > for
> > > Speakup...
> > > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
> > > > for
> > > Speakup.
> > > > david@ubuntu:~$
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky <dorozhin...@ukr.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> > > > To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Jude DaShiell'
> > > > <jdash...@panix.com>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At
> > > > least in
> > > my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to
> > > install it manually.
> > > >
> > > > Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> > > > System: Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> > > > bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> > > > Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
> > > > espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> > > > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
> > > > enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
> > > > Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET;
> > > > 22min
> > > ago
> > > > Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > > > Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
> > > > Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> > > > Memory: 6.3M
> > > > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > > > ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
> > > >
> > > > Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software
> > > > speech output for Speakup...
> > > > Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software
> > > > speech output for Speakup.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Volodymyr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> > > > > I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far.
> > > > > It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the
> > > > > hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am
> > > > > testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if
> > > > > that is true or not
> > > > >
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
> > > > > To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > > > <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > > >
> > > > > You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what
> > > > > you want they're not default. I've done much of it before but
> > > > > found slint far more straightforward to get this process working
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> > > > > used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
> > > > >> in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for
> > > > >> lugging all the equipment along
> > > > >>
> > > > >> However, from your description it does not sound like it is an
> > > > >> easily repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider
> > > > >> looking into switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something
> > > > >> that would hopefully work 'out of the box'
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --David
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
> > > > >> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > > >> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what
> > > > >> kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu
> > > > >> hasn't got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu
> > > > >> until after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process
> > > > >> either It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then
> > > > >> installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best
> > > > >> done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux
> > > > >> club day
> > meeting.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> > > > >> used in defense of liberty:
> > > > >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> .
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just
> > > > >>> pop the disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone
> > > > >>> is reading them to me]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --David
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM
> > > > >>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > > >>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a
> > > > >>> reinstall the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you
> > > > >>> install missing modules is possible if on your disk in source
> > > > >>> code but you'll have to build them correctly first. If you
> > > > >>> had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb first then
> > > > >>> you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that
> > > > >>> module in source code on your
> > > disk.
> > > > >>> Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have
> > > > >>> blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the
> > > > >>> disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist
> > > > >>> then built and then installed. It's a complicated
> > > > >> process, just the way ubuntu wants it.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> > > > >>> used in defense of liberty:
> > > > >>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > >>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> .
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that
> > > > >>>> is
> > > > > possible?
> > > > >>>> --David
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM
> > > > >>>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > > >>>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >>>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all
> > > > >>>> of the speakup modules.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> > > > >>>> used in defense of liberty:
> > > > >>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > >>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> .
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it
> > > > >>>>> doesn't appear the speakup module is there after the
> > > > >>>>> install, at least I am unable to find it in the module list,
> > > > >>>>> and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to find it either
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it
> > > > >>>>> and wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step
> > > > >>>>> instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks again ?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --David
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > > > >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM
> > > > >>>>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > > >>>>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >>>>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or
> > > > >>>>> replace ubuntu with
> > > > >>>> another distribution.
> > > > >>>>> You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a
> > > > >>>>> espeak.log to
> > > > >>>> each command then read down through espeak.log once you
> > > > >>>> finish getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get
> > > > >>>> stripped out that
> > > > >> way.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> > > > >>>>> used in defense of liberty:
> > > > >>>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > >>>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> .
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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