As I mentioned earlier, I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this
project in line.  I am a firm believer that we can do this democratically,
but someone has to be given "the ball" to put filter the discussion and
finally provide some forward momentum.

Mr. Botscharow and myself have written almost identical messages and share
similar views.  In fact, his mission statement almost uses the same exact
language!  Onno is also saying what I feel...its clear to me that there is a
lot of initiative in this group that we could use to make these ideas all
work!

I was preparing a draft statement to the Community Council to ask for the
development of a "Core Marketers" team or a "Marketing Board" to be treated
in a similar fashion as the Core Developers.  A core team would have the
same responsibilities to the intangible aspects of the Ubuntu movement that
the development team has to the distribution.

If approved, I recommend we appoint at most three members of the current
group to step into the role of leadership.  From there, members of this core
group could be inducted based on a similar methodology that the Core
Developers use.  Everything should remain transparent, but committal to the
overall agenda as well as standardized marketing materials would be handled
by this new group.

I believe shaping the direction in this manner would allow for us to have
both a leadership team and a direction that would be a suitable arrangement
for an open source project of this magnitude.  We want to keep it open to
all and allow for everyone to participate, but at this time, the Marketing
aspect of community is languishing so poorly, we need to have some folks
step up and take control.

How do you feel about putting about proposing this to the Community
Council?  Is leadership what this group needs above all else?

Thanks,
John Vilsack





On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered by your
> question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for a day or
> two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you are
> right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and that is
> something we should do soon.
>
> Until we have more of a consensus on leadership, I guess I'll "lead" the
> writing of the marketing plan. It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do
> it LOL.
>
> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:39 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> > John Botscharow wrote:
> > > The reason, IMHO, that  it appears we are running in circles is because
> > > we are due to the fact that the marketing team has not, as far as I can
> > > tell, established any real sense of its own identity or its direction.
> >
> > I'd like to know are you up to leading this new Marketing Team? It needs
> > to be asked because without strong leadership we can talk about this
> > stuff forever.
> >
> > I'd like to have an clear, established lead then go from there.
> >
> > -Cory K.
> >
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