John Botscharow wrote: > John V, > > Yes, I think leadership IS the biggest issue keeping us from doinng > anything substabtive, and by leadership I mean more than just people. I > think your proposal is something that definitely needs done. So, I ovte > YES!!!
Seconded alan cocks > > On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:40 -0500, John Vilsack wrote: >> As I mentioned earlier, I am willing to do whatever it takes to get >> this project in line. I am a firm believer that we can do this >> democratically, but someone has to be given "the ball" to put filter >> the discussion and finally provide some forward momentum. >> >> Mr. Botscharow and myself have written almost identical messages and >> share similar views. In fact, his mission statement almost uses the >> same exact language! Onno is also saying what I feel...its clear to >> me that there is a lot of initiative in this group that we could use >> to make these ideas all work! >> >> I was preparing a draft statement to the Community Council to ask for >> the development of a "Core Marketers" team or a "Marketing Board" to >> be treated in a similar fashion as the Core Developers. A core team >> would have the same responsibilities to the intangible aspects of the >> Ubuntu movement that the development team has to the distribution. >> >> If approved, I recommend we appoint at most three members of the >> current group to step into the role of leadership. From there, >> members of this core group could be inducted based on a similar >> methodology that the Core Developers use. Everything should remain >> transparent, but committal to the overall agenda as well as >> standardized marketing materials would be handled by this new group. >> >> I believe shaping the direction in this manner would allow for us to >> have both a leadership team and a direction that would be a suitable >> arrangement for an open source project of this magnitude. We want to >> keep it open to all and allow for everyone to participate, but at this >> time, the Marketing aspect of community is languishing so poorly, we >> need to have some folks step up and take control. >> >> How do you feel about putting about proposing this to the Community >> Council? Is leadership what this group needs above all else? >> >> Thanks, >> John Vilsack >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM, John Botscharow >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered >> by your >> question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for >> a day or >> two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you >> are >> right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and that >> is >> something we should do soon. >> >> Until we have more of a consensus on leadership, I guess I'll >> "lead" the >> writing of the marketing plan. It's a dirty job, but somebody >> has to do >> it LOL. >> >> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:39 -0400, Cory K. wrote: >> > John Botscharow wrote: >> > > The reason, IMHO, that it appears we are running in >> circles is because >> > > we are due to the fact that the marketing team has not, as >> far as I can >> > > tell, established any real sense of its own identity or >> its direction. >> > >> > I'd like to know are you up to leading this new Marketing >> Team? It needs >> > to be asked because without strong leadership we can talk >> about this >> > stuff forever. >> > >> > I'd like to have an clear, established lead then go from >> there. >> > >> > -Cory K. >> > >> -- >> >> Peace! >> >> John >> >> You do have choice on what operating system you use: >> http://www.ubuntu.com/ >> >> I am an Ubuntu user! >> My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow >> My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com >> John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics & Life >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-marketing mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing >> >> >> >> >> -- >> John Vilsack >> Network Administrator >> The-House.com >> 300 S Owasso Blvd E >> St. Paul, MN 55117 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.the-house.com >> p. 651.482.9995 >> f. 651.482.1353 -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
