John V, Yes, I think leadership IS the biggest issue keeping us from doinng anything substabtive, and by leadership I mean more than just people. I think your proposal is something that definitely needs done. So, I ovte YES!!!
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:40 -0500, John Vilsack wrote: > As I mentioned earlier, I am willing to do whatever it takes to get > this project in line. I am a firm believer that we can do this > democratically, but someone has to be given "the ball" to put filter > the discussion and finally provide some forward momentum. > > Mr. Botscharow and myself have written almost identical messages and > share similar views. In fact, his mission statement almost uses the > same exact language! Onno is also saying what I feel...its clear to > me that there is a lot of initiative in this group that we could use > to make these ideas all work! > > I was preparing a draft statement to the Community Council to ask for > the development of a "Core Marketers" team or a "Marketing Board" to > be treated in a similar fashion as the Core Developers. A core team > would have the same responsibilities to the intangible aspects of the > Ubuntu movement that the development team has to the distribution. > > If approved, I recommend we appoint at most three members of the > current group to step into the role of leadership. From there, > members of this core group could be inducted based on a similar > methodology that the Core Developers use. Everything should remain > transparent, but committal to the overall agenda as well as > standardized marketing materials would be handled by this new group. > > I believe shaping the direction in this manner would allow for us to > have both a leadership team and a direction that would be a suitable > arrangement for an open source project of this magnitude. We want to > keep it open to all and allow for everyone to participate, but at this > time, the Marketing aspect of community is languishing so poorly, we > need to have some folks step up and take control. > > How do you feel about putting about proposing this to the Community > Council? Is leadership what this group needs above all else? > > Thanks, > John Vilsack > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM, John Botscharow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered > by your > question and very honored. Let me hold off answering that for > a day or > two to give others a chance to express their opinions; but you > are > right. the team does need to set up strong leadership and that > is > something we should do soon. > > Until we have more of a consensus on leadership, I guess I'll > "lead" the > writing of the marketing plan. It's a dirty job, but somebody > has to do > it LOL. > > On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 13:39 -0400, Cory K. wrote: > > John Botscharow wrote: > > > The reason, IMHO, that it appears we are running in > circles is because > > > we are due to the fact that the marketing team has not, as > far as I can > > > tell, established any real sense of its own identity or > its direction. > > > > I'd like to know are you up to leading this new Marketing > Team? It needs > > to be asked because without strong leadership we can talk > about this > > stuff forever. > > > > I'd like to have an clear, established lead then go from > there. > > > > -Cory K. > > > -- > > Peace! > > John > > You do have choice on what operating system you use: > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > I am an Ubuntu user! > My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow > My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com > John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics & Life > > > > > -- > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > > > > > -- > John Vilsack > Network Administrator > The-House.com > 300 S Owasso Blvd E > St. Paul, MN 55117 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.the-house.com > p. 651.482.9995 > f. 651.482.1353 -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -------------------------------------------------------------- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics & Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
