Certified systems are looking to far into the future. In other words that
is something that needs to be addressed once the bigger problem of Ubuntu
/ Linux Desktop marketing is tackled. Lets be honest most individuals that
can setup a system with Ubuntu are usually able to get all the basics
working. Video, sound, etc etc. As for printers and accessories being
incompatible that could occur on a new or used system depending on what
the individual who owns it went out and bought.

I totally agree with Ubuntu and Linux not being used interchangeably I was
simply referring to Ubuntu for this particular mailing list and used a /
to signify Linux as a whole not just Ubuntu.

We should take the skills of the base users and used systems and use it as
a tool not address them as not good enough. The users are what make us in
the first place. Great used Linux systems can be obtained from many many
users within the community.

Regards,
Ronnie
Buntfu.com

> Good points and I agree in principle. However, I would like to add my
> thoughts to two areas in your post that I feel weaken the marketing
> message.
>
> 1) The used computer sector is an area of opportunity iff certified (or
> compatible) systems are marketed over "try this and it might work"
> systems. Every time we advocate (sell/assemble) a used computer there is
> clear danger that the new Ubuntu user will receive a unique collection
> of incompatibilites and will become a negative reference. For further
> background: http://randall.executiv.es/node/16
>
> 2) There is a natural tendency in the community to use the words "Linux"
> and "Ubuntu" interchangeably. We should refrain from doing so. My
> reasoning is here: http://randall.executiv.es/node/15
> Further fuel is here (please note the steady decline of one of the
> curves on the graph) http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+linux
>
> Cheers,
> Randall
> Ubuntu Vancouver Buzz Generator.
>
> The On 10-08-05 02:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I believe the strongest market for Linux to make true inroads as a
>> viable
>> desktop operating system is the used computer sector.
>>
>> Many individuals would be much more willing to give Linux a try or a
>> chance on a nice used, inexpensive computer rather than shelling out big
>> buck on a brand new machine. When something is expensive they are going
>> to
>> stick with what they know.
>>
>> Stronger focus on cheap, efficient used systems is warranted. Human
>> character is something that needs to be addressed when considering
>> Ubuntu
>> or Linux marketing.
>>
>> We can't rely on non stop commercials or ads posted everywhere we turn
>> promoting Ubuntu / Linux. An excellent side door (grass roots) approach
>> is
>> in used, capable, cheap systems that people would be willing to try.
>>
>> No vendors can really sell used systems with windows or mac without two
>> things occuring. Either the OS that it comes with is stolen or out of
>> date.
>>
>> The reason? Because if its a legit copy that came with the computer its
>> probably old. Also no one is going to pay a few hundred dollars for a
>> current windows system on a cheap used computer, so if it comes with one
>> its probably a pirated copy.
>>
>> Linux can provide a modern operating system that runs great on older
>> hardware and is entirely legitmate.
>>
>> We need to focus on this market. I personally have setup numerous older
>> computers with linux that people were willing to try in on and ending up
>> loving it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ronnie
>> Buntfu.com
>>
>>
>
>
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