ROFL - I didn't even notice the time he posted it. Ran.. buddy... occasionally it is OK to take a sleeping pill - just not regularly so it becomes a habit ;)
On Jul 15, 9:50 am, Mark Tyler <[email protected]> wrote: > So let me get this straight. Instead of counting sheep, Ran was up past > 3:00 a.m. applying complex equations to his game collection only to conclude > that he prefers higher rated games over lower rated ones. > > Genius! :) > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Sylvus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So… here is the difference in being the kind of person that suffers > > from the “cult of the new” syndrome. I actually OWN 50 games that > > qualify under Ran’s system to be considered “guaranteed bad” (Bayesian > > rating < 6.5 and average rating < 7.0). Due to being a bit of a > > collector I would consider any game in which I have rated a 7 or > > higher to be a keeper and I probably wouldn’t mind trading the > > others. Of those 50 games only 5 fall within my “keep” zone. > > > Shocking Roulette 7 > > Buccaneer 7 > > Poison 7 > > Ticket to Ride: Mystery Train Expansion 7 > > Cutthroat Caverns 7 > > > I have only two games that land with a Bayesian of < 6.5 and an > > average > 7.0 and those are: > > > Ace of Aces - Handy Rotary Deluxe Edition 6 6.12468 > > 7.06841 > > Cutthroat Caverns: Deeper & Darker 6 6.26582 > > 7.27587 > > > I own 124 games that all average 6.5 or greater on the Bayesian. So > > next I figured I would see the ones that rated 6 or below for ME and > > that I wouldn’t mind trading away. That came to a total of 37 games. > > > Mystery of the Abbey 5 ** > > Space Dealer 5 > > The Settlers of Catan Card Game 5 > > Dungeon Twister 5 ** > > Leonardo da Vinci 5 > > Attika 5 > > Carcassonne 5 > > Saboteur 6 ** > > Hoity Toity 6 > > Tempus 6 > > Niagara 6 ** > > Felix: The Cat in the Sack 6 > > O Zoo le Mio 6 ** > > Wasabi! 6 > > Star Wars: Epic Duels 6 * > > Bang! 6 ** > > A Touch of Evil, The Supernatural Game 6 > > Cleopatra and the Society of Architects 6 ** > > Lord of the Rings 6 > > Mykerinos 6 > > Hey! That's My Fish! 6 ** > > Arkadia 6 > > Hacienda 6 > > Nexus Ops 6 > > Santiago 6 > > Shadows over Camelot 6 ** > > Lost Cities 6 ** > > Maharaja: Palace Building in India 6 > > Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation 6 > > Hive 6 > > Ticket to Ride: Marklin Edition 6 > > In the Year of the Dragon 6 > > Notre Dame 6 > > The Settlers of Catan 6 ** > > Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition 6 > > Railroad Tycoon 6 ** > > Caylus 6 > > Tigris & Euphrates 6 > > > ** Games I would still keep due to being a "game > > evangelist" (explained later) > > * Games I would keep simply due to collectibility > > > That leaves me with 76 games that have a Bayesian of 6.5 or greater > > and that I rate a 7 or above. How depressing to realize that I out of > > 176 games I really only consider 43% of them as keepers. Ah well – I > > suppose that is what is to be expected from someone that suffers from > > my affliction. > > > The only unique part to my scenario is that I consider myself a game > > evangelist – which means that although I may not personally LIKE some > > of the games in my collection I actually keep them there so that I can > > entertain others that probably wouldn’t enjoy ANYTHING I consider to > > be a 7 or above. I am not particular to party games but I have > > several for those that enjoy the lighter side. > > > Interesting exercise Ran. Thanks. > > > On Jul 15, 7:21 am, Sylvus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ROFL - OK I need an hour to go through all this and then I will > > > comment ;) > > > > On Jul 15, 2:27 am, Ran <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've decided that a BGG rating (Bayesian rating) below 6.5 means the > > > > game is Bad. This is becoming a hard and fast rule for me. > > > > > If a game I'm interested in has a low rating (near 6.5), I consult the > > > > average rating. If the average rating is below 7, it is a virtual > > > > certainty that the game is Bad. Bad means I wouldn't want to own it > > > > and would rarely want to play it. > > > > > That's all I really wanted to say. The rest of this post is a result > > > > of having way too much time on my hands. If anyone has any idea what > > > > this little analysis says about my game preferences, I'm all ears... > > > > > *************************************** > > > > > I have exactly two games in my collection that fall into the category > > > > of (BGG < 6.5, AVG > 7): The Settlers of Zarahemla and Boggle Master. > > > > I keep the first just because I'm Mormon and I keep the second because > > > > I loved it as a kid, excel at it, it's impossible to trade away and > > > > impossible to replace. (Settlers may be growing on me, but I'm not > > > > interested enough to find out. My last play was enjoyable, though.) > > > > > Here are the Bad games that I own or have owned: > > > > > Pick Picknic 6.48 > > > > Money! 6.47 > > > > Quo Vadis? 6.45 > > > > Boggle Master 6.43 > > > > The Settlers of Zarahemla 6.42 > > > > Pickomino 6.38 > > > > Gavitt's Stock Exchange (aka Pit) 6.34 > > > > Cave Troll 6.29 > > > > Goldbräu 6.29 > > > > Winds Of Plunder 6.28 > > > > Loot 6.27 > > > > Oshi 5.87 > > > > Oriente 5.74 > > > > Reiner Knizia's Amazing Flea Circus 5.73 > > > > Covert Action 5.58 > > > > DareBase 5.51 > > > > Vantage 5.42 > > > > Skip-bo 5.16 > > > > Checkers 4.81 > > > > > Of these, there are 3 games with BGG < 6.5 + AVG < 7 that I *might* > > > > miss if I were the victim of a fire: Cave Troll, Money!, and Loot > > > > (only good with teams (6/8 players)). I got rid of Cave Troll because > > > > I couldn't stomach the theme (I like fantasy, but it embarrasses me). > > > > Settlers and Boggle have AVG > 7. > > > > > * I brought Checkers back from a visit to my parents' because it just > > > > seems like something gamers should have (like a Chess set, which I > > > > don't own and probably never will, so go figure). It's a nice-ish > > > > wooden set that my dad's bank gave to him. Last time I played Checkers > > > > was with my niece 2(?) years ago. Before that, who knows. > > > > * I was introduced to Skip-bo on the mission and bought it at some > > > > point, but have probably never played it since then. > > > > * Vantage is a throw-back to when I was 10 or something (yes, my copy > > > > is that old). I've never played it. It's inconceivable to me that this > > > > rates higher than Skip-bo. (It's from the makers of UNO!) > > > > * DareBase was a gift from the designer. I've never played it. > > > > * I bought Pit, Oriente, and Covert Action to try to accommodate large > > > > groups, but have since decided that the goal is silly (and these games > > > > pretty much suck anyway). I really would like to design a decent game > > > > for use with the Oriente materials though. > > > > * I got Amazing Flea Circus and Pickomino to play with my nieces, but > > > > they were too young. > > > > * I bought Quo Vadis? knowing I don't like it because it was a good > > > > deal (and regret it anyway). > > > > > Here are the Not Bad games that I've (played) and have traded or would > > > > rather not own: > > > > > Tigris & Euphrates 7.96 (4) > > > > Race for the Galaxy 7.90 (3) > > > > Pandemic 7.70 (2) > > > > Taj Mahal 7.46 (3) > > > > Citadels 7.26 (5) > > > > Thebes 7.25 (7) > > > > For Sale 7.17 (4) > > > > Vegas Showdown 7.17 (1) > > > > Tinner's Trail 7.16 (1) > > > > Caylus Magna Carta 7.07 (4) > > > > China 7.04 (4) > > > > Arkadia 6.99 (1) > > > > Hansa 6.97 (5) > > > > Meuterer 6.96 (2) > > > > Odin's Ravens 6.64 (4) > > > > Phoenicia 6.61 (2) > > > > Gheos 6.51 (4) > > > > > The odd-ball of this group is Taj Mahal, which I'm not a fan of, but > > > > seem to be developing a soft spot for. If I have another enjoyable > > > > play of it, it'll almost certainly come off this list. And on that > > > > same note, Lost Cities would have appeared on this list right up until > > > > my very last play of it. Most of the rest on this list either started > > > > badly (Citadels, Pandemic, Arkadia) or seemed to get worse with each > > > > play. > > > > > Of this group, there are 4 that I more or less like as games (don't > > > > seem to get worse anyway), but rarely make the cut at play time: > > > > Thebes (too random), Hansa (too chaotic), Odin's Ravens (two players > > > > and too long), and Gheos (too hard to explain/remember rules). > > > > > And here are the Not Bad games that I have played and am happy to own: > > > > > Brass 7.88 > > > > Ra 7.68 > > > > Imperial 7.67 > > > > Steam 7.49 > > > > Struggle of Empires 7.48 > > > > Hollywood Blockbuster 7.18 (The presentation really bothers > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "utah county boardgamers association" group. 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