Yep, alas Ran all that data doesn't help at all that I can see. I have spent well over a year trying to figure out what you might like and not like and about the only conclusion that I have come to is that more than likely if I bring it that you will more than likely either to NOT like it or be indifferent towards it. Now saying that one of the games genres that is pretty rare in my collection are economic type games (since they fail with my home group of my wife and two brothers). Those seem to have a higher than normal chance with you so it is a start.
I have also noted that this is only for the heavier games. On the light side I am completely baffled as I have yet to sense any pattern. On Jul 15, 9:59 am, Kenneth Li <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know what to say, when I cannot sleep last night and went down to my > computer and find this longish email on my inbox... > > Ran at work in the early hours of the morning 3:27 am to be exact :) > > While my sleeping situation is not better than his, wild awake even a 4:00am > in the morning, I don't think I have the heart, energy and mind to do this > :) > > So I admire Ran's effort and truly salute to the time he spend on this > email. > > It can tell how much we rely on rating a BGG. > > Did rating sell games? > > Which one to trust, Bayesian or average? > > Did Ran like higher rating games? > > If the game has a very high rating like Agricola, will Ran like it? > > What is the possibility of Ran liking a game corresponding to the ratings on > BGG? > > Those are truly more intuitive question to answer :) > > Anyway, 3 cheers to Ran :) > > And you can tell by this email, I am lack of sleep too :) > > --- Ken --- > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Ran <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've decided that a BGG rating (Bayesian rating) below 6.5 means the > > game is Bad. This is becoming a hard and fast rule for me. > > > If a game I'm interested in has a low rating (near 6.5), I consult the > > average rating. If the average rating is below 7, it is a virtual > > certainty that the game is Bad. Bad means I wouldn't want to own it > > and would rarely want to play it. > > > That's all I really wanted to say. The rest of this post is a result > > of having way too much time on my hands. If anyone has any idea what > > this little analysis says about my game preferences, I'm all ears... > > > *************************************** > > > I have exactly two games in my collection that fall into the category > > of (BGG < 6.5, AVG > 7): The Settlers of Zarahemla and Boggle Master. > > I keep the first just because I'm Mormon and I keep the second because > > I loved it as a kid, excel at it, it's impossible to trade away and > > impossible to replace. (Settlers may be growing on me, but I'm not > > interested enough to find out. My last play was enjoyable, though.) > > > Here are the Bad games that I own or have owned: > > > Pick Picknic 6.48 > > Money! 6.47 > > Quo Vadis? 6.45 > > Boggle Master 6.43 > > The Settlers of Zarahemla 6.42 > > Pickomino 6.38 > > Gavitt's Stock Exchange (aka Pit) 6.34 > > Cave Troll 6.29 > > Goldbräu 6.29 > > Winds Of Plunder 6.28 > > Loot 6.27 > > Oshi 5.87 > > Oriente 5.74 > > Reiner Knizia's Amazing Flea Circus 5.73 > > Covert Action 5.58 > > DareBase 5.51 > > Vantage 5.42 > > Skip-bo 5.16 > > Checkers 4.81 > > > Of these, there are 3 games with BGG < 6.5 + AVG < 7 that I *might* > > miss if I were the victim of a fire: Cave Troll, Money!, and Loot > > (only good with teams (6/8 players)). I got rid of Cave Troll because > > I couldn't stomach the theme (I like fantasy, but it embarrasses me). > > Settlers and Boggle have AVG > 7. > > > * I brought Checkers back from a visit to my parents' because it just > > seems like something gamers should have (like a Chess set, which I > > don't own and probably never will, so go figure). It's a nice-ish > > wooden set that my dad's bank gave to him. Last time I played Checkers > > was with my niece 2(?) years ago. Before that, who knows. > > * I was introduced to Skip-bo on the mission and bought it at some > > point, but have probably never played it since then. > > * Vantage is a throw-back to when I was 10 or something (yes, my copy > > is that old). I've never played it. It's inconceivable to me that this > > rates higher than Skip-bo. (It's from the makers of UNO!) > > * DareBase was a gift from the designer. I've never played it. > > * I bought Pit, Oriente, and Covert Action to try to accommodate large > > groups, but have since decided that the goal is silly (and these games > > pretty much suck anyway). I really would like to design a decent game > > for use with the Oriente materials though. > > * I got Amazing Flea Circus and Pickomino to play with my nieces, but > > they were too young. > > * I bought Quo Vadis? knowing I don't like it because it was a good > > deal (and regret it anyway). > > > Here are the Not Bad games that I've (played) and have traded or would > > rather not own: > > > Tigris & Euphrates 7.96 (4) > > Race for the Galaxy 7.90 (3) > > Pandemic 7.70 (2) > > Taj Mahal 7.46 (3) > > Citadels 7.26 (5) > > Thebes 7.25 (7) > > For Sale 7.17 (4) > > Vegas Showdown 7.17 (1) > > Tinner's Trail 7.16 (1) > > Caylus Magna Carta 7.07 (4) > > China 7.04 (4) > > Arkadia 6.99 (1) > > Hansa 6.97 (5) > > Meuterer 6.96 (2) > > Odin's Ravens 6.64 (4) > > Phoenicia 6.61 (2) > > Gheos 6.51 (4) > > > The odd-ball of this group is Taj Mahal, which I'm not a fan of, but > > seem to be developing a soft spot for. If I have another enjoyable > > play of it, it'll almost certainly come off this list. And on that > > same note, Lost Cities would have appeared on this list right up until > > my very last play of it. Most of the rest on this list either started > > badly (Citadels, Pandemic, Arkadia) or seemed to get worse with each > > play. > > > Of this group, there are 4 that I more or less like as games (don't > > seem to get worse anyway), but rarely make the cut at play time: > > Thebes (too random), Hansa (too chaotic), Odin's Ravens (two players > > and too long), and Gheos (too hard to explain/remember rules). > > > And here are the Not Bad games that I have played and am happy to own: > > > Brass 7.88 > > Ra 7.68 > > Imperial 7.67 > > Steam 7.49 > > Struggle of Empires 7.48 > > Hollywood Blockbuster 7.18 (The presentation really bothers me.) > > Lost Cities 7.18 > > Nexus Ops 7.11 > > Hacienda 7.02 > > In the Shadow of the Emperor 6.95 > > No Thanks! 6.94 > > Perikles 6.87 > > The Ark of the Covenant 6.85 > > Oltre Mare 6.73 > > Scripts and Scribes 6.72 > > Die Sieben Siegel 6.71 > > Risk 2210 A.D. 6.62 (I'm happy to have this only as a hook for people > > who know Risk, but I never really want to play Risk for its own sake. > > I think I'd rather have Risk Revised to fill this niche, but whatever, > > my timing was off.) > > King of Siam 6.62 (This one is borderline and hard to get played, so I > > may trade it anyway.) > > The Battle for Hill 218 6.55 > > > And finally, here are the Not Bad games that I own and have not played > > (but expect to like): > > > Memoir '44 7.50 (I may like this, but I expect to trade it anyway > > unless it's super duper) > > Tower of Babel 6.69 > > After the Flood 6.61 > > > Here are games I've played and would like to own: > > > Automobile 7.22 > > Vikings 7.20 > > Snow Tails 6.90 > > Stephenson's Rocket 6.83 > > League of Six 6.65 > > > And here is a rundown of games I have played taken from the first 4 > > pages of ranked games on BGG, separated into two groups. I think the > > best way to interpret this is to say that if these games were gifted > > to me, I'd be inclined to keep the first group and trade the second > > group. But I'm not in a hurry to own any of them. > > > Notre Dame > > In the Year of the Dragon > > Medici > > The End of the Triumvirate > > Chicago Express > > Puerto Rico > > Twilight Struggle > > Dominion > > Goa > > Stone Age > > Age of Empires 3 > > Small World/Vinci > > Samurai > > Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation > > Acquire > > Amun-Re > > Battlestar Galactica > > Roborally > > Yspahan > > Cuba > > Bohnanza > > Santiago > > Domaine > > Keythedral > > Coloretto > > Ys > > Manila > > Aladdin's Dragons > > Showmanager > > Survive! 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