On Tuesday, 16 August 2016, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> If you send me the details of what version and box I can take a look for
> you.
>

While it's obviously good of you to offer to help out here - for the life
of me - I cannot understand why information required to be in compliance
with BTs own rules (under penalty of disconnection) is (partially) treated
like a secret. In the case of own branded hardware I can maybe - and only
then, maybe - see that the information is of limited use to others, but
IMO it should still be possible to verify that the kit and firmware you
have been supplied is in compliance with BTs requirements.

It does not appear likely that this approach is helpful to end users
(because yes, end users still want/need to buy their own equipment despite
the trend in bundling in some so-so kit), CPs (who can't reliably determine
certified kit for themselves or their end users), or even BT (who at the
least create work for themselves fielding enquiries about whether
such-and-such is certified and who run a greater risk having non-compliant
kit connected because the process is unnecessarily opaque).

Likewise it seems odd to me that manufacturers (appear to?) have to go via
a CP to get their own kit approved. Vendors (for it is they with the
greatest interest in passing certification) submitting their own kit and
firmware to BT, and any approved device/firmware list being public
[1] seems the obvious route to take here, but it's possible there's
something I (and, evidently, others) are missing about the
overall reasoning here.

Phil

[1] though vendors would of course promote their efforts here, it should
still be possible to independently verify their claims, and verify which is
the latest certified firmware

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