The issues Paul talks about are societal ones. We are moving towards a point where all responsibility is removed. I think this deviates too far from the original topic.
The most important part of this, according to many studies and psychologists is parental involvement, we should be talking to our children about cyber safety, setting boundaries, disciplining if they go beyond. We should have their iPhone pin so we can check what they’ve been sending through whatsapp and they should be fine with us doing that. The virtual world should be treated In the same way as the physical world we should keep an eye on them and educate them. Governments around the world should not be moving to become nanny states. The tools I have put in place are very simple, an app on laptops and devices and opendns at home. Access is managed via an app on my phone, alerts are emailed to me. Even my tech hating wife can manage. Sent from my iPhone > On 24/04/2019, at 05:55, Scott Weeks <[email protected]> wrote: > > --- [email protected] wrote: > From: Paul Mansfield <[email protected]> > >> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 23:12, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >> Having said that we as a community should be helping them find >> and use the tools needed to do this. > > ...but few parents are technically savvy enough to use them even > if they wanted to. Those who do will fight with their children > due to false positive blocking, and be worn down and disable any > blocks. > > I tried imposing controls, we found he simply went to friends' > houses where the parents didn't attempt any controls. > > ...a feeling of futility given that it would take all parents to > act since those who didn't undermine all efforts. > > ...most parents will simply turn off any censorship mechanisms if > they become annoying. > > ...Many parents get technical help from their children for even > basic technical tasks anyway > > I...face an ongoing battle with my teenagers over their usage. > ------------------------------------------ > > > So, because it's hard for parents to learn, and some parents don't > censor at all in their homes at all the gov't should surveil and > censor everyone, rather than provide the tools parents need to do > it themselves? > > This thread is about where the responsibility to protect the > children lays. > > scott > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > E.F.A. Project, and is believed to be clean. > > Click here to report this message as spam. > http://mail.wjw.co.nz/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=2EEEDC033B.A5CBE&token=514d92165ef3ba5452c86cf67133240c >
