----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: unicode Digest V4 #3


> Philippe Verdy wrote:
>
> > I maintain that if you remove the glyph shown for latin letter oi
> > (considered only as informative and not mandatory in any of its
aspects),
> > and just keep its normative name, then many people will think that the
> > encoded character really represents a letter named or pronounced "oi".
> Which
> > is completely wrong in our case. But would allow people to use the
> assigned
> > code point to represent the L-shaped character "i with lower-right
> hook"...
>
> Not a good idea: the Nogai and Khakass languages appear to have used both
> gha/oi and "i with lower right hook" according to
> http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/nogai/nogailatin.htm and
> http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/khakass/khakasslatin.htm .

That's a rewording of what I meant, if my sentence was not clear and
was not already demonstrating that "i with lower retroflex hook" is
distinct from "oi/gha".

Now with the new Peter's remark, this "i with lower retroflex hook" has
to be distinct from the small b/soft sign (inherited from cyrillic), even if
both could be considered in Azeri as being mostly glyph variants of the
same Azeri character.

But do we need a separate encoding for this "i with retroflex hook below" ?

Couldn't it be encoded safely with <dotless-i><combining retroflex hook
below> ?

If the problem is that dotless-i as a default case mapping to standard
uppercase
I whose default lower case mapping would add an unexpected dot above, then
it is worth the effort to add it as a precombined character:

* <small letter dotless i with retroflex hook> with a compatibility
decomposition
as <small letter dotless i><combining retroflex hook below>.

* <capital dotless-i with retroflex hook> with a compatibility decomposition
as <capital ASCII letter I><combining retroflex hook below>

and case mappings with each other. Both solutions maintains the distinction
with Latin oi (gha) and with the latin soft sign (small b).


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