On 05/01/2004 05:04, Philippe Verdy wrote:

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Not a good idea: the Nogai and Khakass languages appear to have used both
gha/oi and "i with lower right hook" according to
http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/nogai/nogailatin.htm and
http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/khakass/khakasslatin.htm .



That's a rewording of what I meant, if my sentence was not clear and was not already demonstrating that "i with lower retroflex hook" is distinct from "oi/gha".

Now with the new Peter's remark, this "i with lower retroflex hook" has
to be distinct from the small b/soft sign (inherited from cyrillic), even if
both could be considered in Azeri as being mostly glyph variants of the
same Azeri character.

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I would think that the issue here is whether "i with retroflex hook below" is a suitable description of this character. It may be a reasonable match for the glyph. But this is not a mark of retroflection (although arguably of back articulation (cf. U+0320)), and to call it one is probably an anachronism. There is probably no historical link with the retroflex hook.

I would prefer a new character with no compatibility decomposition; or if there is any compatibility decomposition it should be directly to dotless i which is the modern equivalent.

It seems that we do actually need two new character pairs, this one and also the soft sign lookalike - unless it is considered acceptable to use the Cyrillic characters in Latin text cf. the use of Latin Q and W in Cyrillic Kurdish.

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