Ditto.
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Richard Hotchkiss
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"Knight, Sandra (US - Philadelphia)" wrote:

> May I add my 2 cents to Karen's 2 cents.  I agree with what she says.
>
> Sande Knight
> Deloitte & Touche
> Assurance and Advisory Services
> tel  215-246-2424
> fax  215-405-3178
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen E. Heenan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: 'University City Listserv (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [UC] SPAM
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> I have no problem receiving email from the listserv, whatever my neighbors
> want to say.  If I'm not interested or I don't want to read it, the
> listserv, and all of our computers, comes with a filter.   It's called
> delete.
>
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Sharrieff Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:24 AM
> To: 'University City Listserv (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
> Subject: [UC] SPAM
>
> Spam defined : unsolicited commercial email,  processed meat in a can.
>
> This listserv was originally intended to give neighbors
> an opportunity to share their views on topical issues
> of community concern, to interest community members in
> giving something back to the neighborhood. One of the
> first uses was getting the word out about a support
> drive for neighbors who were victims of a fire.
>
> There was a time when we cared about the content and post to the list. But
> over the years as the list grew, the opportunity to Spam the numerous
> captive audience was too hard too resist for some. There is something called
> net-etiquette which is standard on most community forum listservs. It
> assumes that political solicitation, commercial ventures
> for-profit-marketing, promotion of religion, writing entire e-mails in all
> caps known as "shouting", or character defamation have no place in a civil
> discourse forum. By using these guidelines it keeps the forum interesting
> enough to read.
>
> The U-City list has become an "anything goes" environment. Folks selling
> items, renting apartments, promoting for profit businesses, have made
> inappropriate, by net-etiquette standards, post, that undermine the
> potential quality of discussions about issues concerning our community.
>
> Reading all of the Spam that comes across the list represents the idea that
> we are self-serving masked as "sharing" with our neighbors. I am an American
> that believes in equality for ALL citizens. This is an elite system we are
> using, many people are not on line and accessing such spontaneous
> information delivery. This clearly would give anyone who chooses to use it a
> competitive advantage with a niche market. Exploitation?
>
> We seem to be afraid of talking about the real issues that separate us as a
> community. Posting all of the frivolous items that anyone could find in
> "Close at Hand" or by "Google" is what I believe to be nervous chatter. Ok,
> sometimes it is humorous! Good thing, people don't seem to send chain
> letters or office jokes to the list. Knock on wood!
>
> There are many who have unsubscribed or chastised those of us who are
> actively engaged in community building because we are passionate about where
> we live. We could never pay Melani or Liz back for the hours they have
> dedicated to our community. However, I don't want to have them or anyone
> else cleverly use this forum to sell me any product or service simply
> because it is an expedient way to reach a mass of people. We all have so
> much more to give.
>
> I have plenty of items and services to sell, but I have never used this
> forum for that purpose.
>
> I am suggesting that we all try to increase the number of people subscribed
> and contributing to the discussion of our community, and work to improve the
> quality of our post to this listserv.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> S.
>
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