<<This, I believe, is why Tony likes face-to-face meetings instead of email or 
listserv?correspondence.>>

That's mind boggling.? As much time as he spends posting to the list, he must 
spend the rest of his waking hours engaging in face to face meetings so he can 
fast talk people.? Hard to believe.

Paul


 


 

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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check










Not cheap at all. I'm replying to this:





All this is rapidly evolving even as we tap, of course. Real negotiations about 
matters of importance never take place on an unmoderated listserv.
 






He posed it as a statement which is why I responded the way I did. That is 
Tony's style: Broad statements of "fact" which are, in reality, his opinions. 
Notice the word "never" in the second sentence. Really? And "important." 
Important to whom? And who said these particular negotiations were happening 
here in the first place? No one did. It's a red herring.




This, I believe, is why Tony likes face-to-face meetings instead of email or 
listserv?correspondence.?In person people don't have time to react to this kind 
of nonsense before the next ridiculous sentence is uttered. In an email people 
have time to compose an answer based on what was actually said instead of a 
fleeting impression.




Frank






On Jun 13, 2007, at 01:50 PM, Brian Siano wrote:



Frank wrote:
 

First of all, that is one of the reasons I work for myself.




Secondly, if you think this never happens, you are more naive than you let on. 
Do you honestly believe everything a CEO says publicly about an employee's 
departure is true? Please say you don't. Why should this situation be any 
different?




According to Jannie Blackwell, one of the conditions of Fenton's severance 
package is that he not talk about it, Perhaps *that's* why he hasn't said 
anything.




How do you know it's evolving and not over? You're implying you know something 
the rest of us do not. Do you?
 

So we get the cheapest of the debating tactics: "Are you _sure_? Do you really 
_know_? How do you _really know_? Couldn't you be _wrong_?" Jesus, you sound 
like a freshman who's just read the _Republic_ for the first time.




All we know is this: Blackwell says that Fenton was offered a severance package 
(Could be true or not.). UCD says they're still investigating the issue 
("Investigating".is a broad term: they might've made their minds up by now, but 
haven't acted on anything, and they could claim to be "investigating.") We can 
speculate all we want about these two different claims.




But there has been no _official_ word that John Fenton has been fired, asked to 
resign, resigned, or been exonerated. As far as the facts are known right now, 
Fenton is still an employee of UCD.




As far as I can tell, this is what Tony's been saying, and somehow many people 
here fail to grasp this.

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