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To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Fwd: [UC] Reality check
Dude,
If you think my post was a pot shot at you, I'd say you are being a tad
self centered.
My suggestion was based on the reporting of what happened at the meeting.
We know Marty works for Jannie, that Jannie showed up at the meeting
apparently intent on raising a fuss about John F and criticizing UCD. The
anonymous poster wanted to encourage people interested in the issue to show up.
So the question I saw was, who knew in advance that the issue was going
to come up, although the agenda was focused elsewhere, and who had an interest
in bringing out additional community members who are hyped up on the whole
issue?
I don't see an alignment between Tony and anti-UCD forces. How would he
have the info and how does he gain by getting people to come? What was his
motive? How would he gain?
Jannie and Marty, OTOH, would benefit, wouldn't they?
Does that mean that Marty posted anonymously? Certainly not. Just
provides a motive and context.
And I don't think you're in a good position to criticize others for
trying to interpret events and sharing your interpretations with others. Not
at all.
Come to the First Thursday meeting at the Walnut Street Library, 40th and
Walnut Street for an update on the UCD's investigation into Councilwoman Jannie
Blackwell's claim that she asked UCD for help at a community fair or a
political rally for Tom Knox. This should be interesting.
The meeting starts at 8:00am and a light breakfast will be served. Please
inform your neighbors.
Dude, it's crazy to suggest that this was posted by any Blackwell ally.
Obviously, this was posted by someone wishing to discredit Blackwell: "UCD's
investigation into Councilwoman Blackwell's claim"
When did this become Blackwell's claim that UCD is investigating? The
trickster tells us we will get an update of the UCD investigation into
Blackwell not an unannounced Blackwell complaint!
A lot of people expected the illegal UCD activity to come up. I never went
to the meeting before, and that's why I went. Committeeman 7 had obviously
been someone whom had attended these meetings like a civic association leader.
That person would have known that the Councilwoman is a regular at that
meeting. THIS IS AN APPEAL TO PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PUT BLACKWELL ON THE HOT SEAT
Blackwell revealed an account forcefully without reservation. It is the
pro-UCD gang that is engaging in all sorts of tricks, secrets, deliberate lies
and attempts to discredit Blackwell. Dude, read this from your committeeman
friend's post:
"UPDATE ON THE UCD'S INVESTIGATION INTO COUNCILWOMAN"
Get real dude. You just took a pot shot at Mr. Cabry with your insinuation
because of your pro UCD leaning.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 8:17 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check
----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: [UC] Reality check
I thought I saw Marty's name on the board list for UCD when I checked
earlier this month.
I understand he was very present at the first Thursday with Jannie.
Seems like he should have been the usual suspect for the committeeman7
message. Right?
Paul
Hey buddy,
You can take pot shots at what I say on the list. But now, you are
engaging in this insinuation against people without any support. It was always
nutty to accuse a Blackwell associate of that post. Now, you make this type of
suggestion. Shame on you.
You need to ask the one who brought the report of the fraud, and launched
the immediate investigations into voteforandytoy and committeeman 7; how the
investigation proceeds. I believe that was Mr. West, if I am not mistaken.
Nnelg
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; University City List
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check
----- Original Message ----- From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "University City List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check
> KAREN ALLEN wrote:
>> I thought John Fenton was under a gag order. If that's the case, he's >>
not in a position to refute anything.
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> are the other ucd employees that were involved with the malcolm x park >
incident also under gag orders?
Excellent question! I hope they haven't been placed on a 2 week leave.
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> also, is it true that marty and glenn bryan were removed from ucd's
board? > when? were any reasons given why?
OK. This is what I know. I remember that Marty Cabry was on the UCD Board
at the very beginning. Maybe 1999 or 2001? I had heard a long time ago that he
had been removed rather than having quit. For me, the Councilmanwoman just
confirmed what I had heard a long time ago.
What I think I heard on Thurs.? Councilwoman Blackwell suggesting that both
he and Glenn Bryan were removed because of the long working relationship with
her. I missed when Glenn Bryan was actually on the Board. It's my opinion that
she is confirming what I've asserted, a UCD demand for secrecy.
A working relationship should have open communication pathways. Whether
it's between a civic association and their members, or between a UCD and the
community's elected representative; open communication needs to be encouraged.
I have no other information, but I think I understand her complaint. Why
should she not have a representative on the board with whom she has a working
relationship? The community depends on her to get the best information about
what is going on, and if her contacts are removed; the open communication is
blocked.
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> and, is the full text of wendell's statement available publicly? when he
> read it at last thursday's meeting, did he just happen to have a copy with >
him, or had he been planning on reading it?
He read it when, I believe both Freda and I, called out, "will you confirm
or deny" what the Councilwoman is telling us. He did not offer any copies of
the statement, but read it from a paper.
That's what I experienced,
Glenn
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