Glenn - I've got to join Liz Campion and ask if you can simplify your posts. If you look at what's below, I think that stuff that you are saying is followed by a signature "Paul"-this is confusing-it is hard to see who is saying what.
Please don't take this as a critique of what you are saying-I'm not passing any judgment on that-just the way the message is formatted makes it very hard to see which statements are yours, and which are Paul Uyehara's-and this does a disservice to both of you and your readers. _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Fwd: [UC] Reality check Dude, If you think my post was a pot shot at you, I'd say you are being a tad self centered. My suggestion was based on the reporting of what happened at the meeting. We know Marty works for Jannie, that Jannie showed up at the meeting apparently intent on raising a fuss about John F and criticizing UCD. The anonymous poster wanted to encourage people interested in the issue to show up. So the question I saw was, who knew in advance that the issue was going to come up, although the agenda was focused elsewhere, and who had an interest in bringing out additional community members who are hyped up on the whole issue? I don't see an alignment between Tony and anti-UCD forces. How would he have the info and how does he gain by getting people to come? What was his motive? How would he gain? Jannie and Marty, OTOH, would benefit, wouldn't they? Does that mean that Marty posted anonymously? Certainly not. Just provides a motive and context. And I don't think you're in a good position to criticize others for trying to interpret events and sharing your interpretations with others. Not at all. Come to the First Thursday meeting at the Walnut Street Library, 40th and Walnut Street for an update on the UCD's investigation into Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell's claim that she asked UCD for help at a community fair or a political rally for Tom Knox. This should be interesting. The meeting starts at 8:00am and a light breakfast will be served. Please inform your neighbors. Dude, it's crazy to suggest that this was posted by any Blackwell ally. Obviously, this was posted by someone wishing to discredit Blackwell: "UCD's investigation into Councilwoman Blackwell's claim" When did this become Blackwell's claim that UCD is investigating? The trickster tells us we will get an update of the UCD investigation into Blackwell not an unannounced Blackwell complaint! A lot of people expected the illegal UCD activity to come up. I never went to the meeting before, and that's why I went. Committeeman 7 had obviously been someone whom had attended these meetings like a civic association leader. That person would have known that the Councilwoman is a regular at that meeting. THIS IS AN APPEAL TO PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PUT BLACKWELL ON THE HOT SEAT Blackwell revealed an account forcefully without reservation. It is the pro-UCD gang that is engaging in all sorts of tricks, secrets, deliberate lies and attempts to discredit Blackwell. Dude, read this from your committeeman friend's post: "UPDATE ON THE UCD'S INVESTIGATION INTO COUNCILWOMAN" Get real dude. You just took a pot shot at Mr. Cabry with your insinuation because of your pro UCD leaning. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 8:17 am Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Fwd: [UC] Reality check I thought I saw Marty's name on the board list for UCD when I checked earlier this month. I understand he was very present at the first Thursday with Jannie. Seems like he should have been the usual suspect for the committeeman7 message. Right? Paul Hey buddy, You can take pot shots at what I say on the list. But now, you are engaging in this insinuation against people without any support. It was always nutty to accuse a Blackwell associate of that post. Now, you make this type of suggestion. Shame on you. You need to ask the one who brought the report of the fraud, and launched the immediate investigations into voteforandytoy and committeeman 7; how the investigation proceeds. I believe that was Mr. West, if I am not mistaken. Nnelg -----Original Message----- From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; University City List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 6:25 pm Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check ----- Original Message ----- From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "University City List" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check > KAREN ALLEN wrote: >> I thought John Fenton was under a gag order. If that's the case, he's >> not in a position to refute anything. > > > open questions: > > are the other ucd employees that were involved with the malcolm x park > incident also under gag orders? Excellent question! I hope they haven't been placed on a 2 week leave. > > also, is it true that marty and glenn bryan were removed from ucd's board? > when? were any reasons given why? OK. This is what I know. I remember that Marty Cabry was on the UCD Board at the very beginning. Maybe 1999 or 2001? I had heard a long time ago that he had been removed rather than having quit. For me, the Councilmanwoman just confirmed what I had heard a long time ago. What I think I heard on Thurs.? Councilwoman Blackwell suggesting that both he and Glenn Bryan were removed because of the long working relationship with her. I missed when Glenn Bryan was actually on the Board. It's my opinion that she is confirming what I've asserted, a UCD demand for secrecy. A working relationship should have open communication pathways. Whether it's between a civic association and their members, or between a UCD and the community's elected representative; open communication needs to be encouraged. I have no other information, but I think I understand her complaint. Why should she not have a representative on the board with whom she has a working relationship? The community depends on her to get the best information about what is going on, and if her contacts are removed; the open communication is blocked. > > and, is the full text of wendell's statement available publicly? when he > read it at last thursday's meeting, did he just happen to have a copy with > him, or had he been planning on reading it? He read it when, I believe both Freda and I, called out, "will you confirm or deny" what the Councilwoman is telling us. He did not offer any copies of the statement, but read it from a paper. That's what I experienced, Glenn > > > > .................. > UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN > [aka laserbeamR] > [aka ray] > SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. > "It is very clear on this listserve who > these people are. Ray has admitted being > connected to this forger." -- Tony West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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