Hello all,

Just my own point of clarification.  To reference Wilma's words:

"The people on UCNeighbors did not approve of those of us who had a
different view of how events unfolded and left.  They also sowed enough
seeds of nasty behavior, disrespect and contempt on this list as well,
that this should not have been the rationale for forming another list
in my opinion."

First off, as one member of the UCNeighbors list, thanks for being able to read 
my mind. And I did't know you were the collective voice for everyone on the 
UCNeighbors list.  That is sarcasim for those that didn't realize, but my point 
is that I find it odd that people on this list think they know exactly why 
people joined the other list.  It is often referenced that anyone who joined 
"UCNeighbors" has left "UnivCity".  This is not always true and so I am clear, 
I am on both lists.  Yes Virginia, one can be on multiple lists, and welcome to 
the Internet since you are new here.

Second off, while I am all for people speaking their mind I, like I assume 
others, have gotten tired of the 5 or 6 people on this list that has resorted 
to name-calling, whining, and ranting to get their point across.  A sample of 
the childish name-calling from just the last week alone: "Ceasar Amy", "Sweet 
Barfing Cheese", not to be confused with "sweetbarkingcheese.com", "UC Lords", 
"the anointed" (FYI, I don't think there was any anointing involved).  I get my 
fair share of whining, complaining, and name-calling from my 3 year old that I 
got tired of having to hear it coming from adults acting like 3 year olds.  So 
I joined UCNeighbors _not_ for the reasons that Wilma suggests, that I "did not 
approve of those of us who had a
different view of how events unfolded."  I actually like the different views 
that come up and enjoy reading them.  But I personally have found that 
"UnivCity" has gotten less informative lately and more like noise to me and I 
joined "UCNeighbors" in the hopes that it will serve the purpose that the 
"UnivCity" once did, of getting information out.  

So far the "UCNeighbors" list has been informative without the name-calling.  
But don't worry folks, I will still read "UnivCity" for the enjoyment.


Now let the name-calling resume,
Tony Dominick


----- Original Message ----
From: Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; UnivCity listserv 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:28:59 AM
Subject: Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from 
Hollywood)

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)



Dear Tony,



You may have a point, but I found your post to be rather high-handed and 
disparaging with regard to most of the high-thinkers have gone over to the 
other list, etc.  Second-raters and fool doesn’t help either.



However, it is an accurate description of many who are on the new list as to 
how do they think of us on this listserv.



Many of us here have had years of community service and have paid our dues. We 
have been here longer than many of the initial posters on the other list.



It eventually came down to some us actually love everything Univ. of PA. is 
doing here and stand to benefit from it personally or professionally.  Others 
see a re-vamping of the neighborhood and displacement of its long time 
residents; especially people of color and are battle-scarred from attacks and 
other negative experiences with the institution.



The people on UCNeighbors did not approve of those of us who had a different 
view of how events unfolded and left.  They also sowed enough seeds of nasty 
behavior, disrespect and contempt on this list as well, that this should not 
have been the rationale for forming another list in my opinion.



That’s my view for what it is or isn’t worth.



Regards,



Wilma



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