Wilma de Soto wrote:
As an original member of the SHCA Listserv and its subsequent UnivCity Listserv, I will never believe UCNeighbors was not formed in order to discredit and shut down the UnivCity Listserv@ purple.


kyle set up his listserv towards the end of july 2007 after being on this list for years. though it's convenient for some to think this list upmanship has all been a question of civility, kyle's free-wheeling posting style here was certainly no model of civility; while he was on this list he behaved at times as badly as (if not worse than) those he (and others) accused of behaving badly. his leaving was not about the civility of this list, but about the inability of everyone on this list to agree. many people countered his arguments and points of view with the same free-wheeling style he used. some who did agree with him (while matching his free-wheeling style) left to join his list at the same time he did; in fact, they were posting on his new list before kyle posted the news here that he had set up his new list.

on july 27 the following free-wheeling exchange happened between he and melani on his new list:

In a message dated 7/27/07 6:49:04 PM, kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes:

the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn!


to which melani replied:

This will be heaven.   But, I hope he doesn't know where you live.

Melani


and then on july 28, kyle announced on this list that he had set up his new list.


one difference between kyle's list and this list: unlike kyle's list, this list's archive can be viewed by ANYONE, whether they are subscribed or not. the above exchange, in fact, is archived here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg18895.html

and from there anyone can explore what kyle and others posted over the years -- good, bad, or ugly -- and the discussions that followed his leaving:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg18858.html


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