Tony, In your response to Kimm with the term "pro-decay forces", is a fine example of the mindset behind the forming of the UCNeighbors listserv.
Let me say that derision of the UnivCity listserv is not the primary reason for many of the subscribers to UCNeighbors, but it is for the founder and several people close to him. Kyle's motives were anything but inscutable. I cannot forget the comments such as, "were civilized over here", there's nothing but crazies at the purple listserv". Right on up to the latest comments about "higher neighborhood input versus lower neighborhood input", "pro-decay forces." In fairness, I have to acknowledge my reticence to join UCNeighbors may be a question of cultural differences. I have lived in the city my entire life. I have no personal experience with planned communities, or suburban communities whose make-up is much less diverse and who seek to ban "the other" from their midst. Those sorts of communities that are deliberately set up to exclude certain types of people for whatever reasons are incompatible to my existence and cultural mindset. However, the people who formed UCNeighbors may have had experience with these sort of communities and actually like them and prefer them to the "takes all kinds" approach of the purple listserv. The fact they closed their archives from the public did not suggest neighborliness to me at its onset. UCNeighbors may have evolved into just stimulating community discussion now and I say good. Its original premise as well as the continued disparagement of people on this listserv is the reason why I, in good conscious, cannot join them no matter how many nice people are subscribed there. My apologies for my viewpoint and shortcomings on this topic. On 4/2/10 1:27 AM, "Anthony West" <[email protected]> wrote: > So our knowable neighbor Kyle may have had some inscrutable motive for > creating a better community listserve than currently existed in his > neighborhood, when the existing model was unpleasantly dominated by > posts from some crazy persons on Purple. Perhaps, as you say, he cannot > deal with disagreements. > > But nobody - neither you nor me - can dispute that Kyle sets clear and > simple limits on what he decides, whereas what Purple decides is a > perpetual mystery to everyone. Purple in no way reflects the concerns of > ordinary West Philadelphians, because it lacks any form of control, > whereas most West Philadelphians live under control.. > > -- Tony West > > > >> If I remember correctlyand I'm sure that I doKyle started his "personal" >> listserv less than a week before his book was released. I always suspected >> that he did it to avoid any discussion about the book's subject matter. In >> that sense I agree with you. I don't think he can easily deal with >> disagreements. I could be wrong. >> >> Frank >> > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
