Wilma,
As far as I know, nobody on UCNeighbors ever disparages anybody who
posts on Purple. It's only people on Purple who disparage people who
post on Purple, or on any other list for that matter. This is the only
listserve where neighbors disparage neighbors at times. I wish it
weren't so, but it is.
Your remarks about "planned communities" don't seem to have any bearing
on a listserve. If you go into Dahlak for a drink, you are entering a
"planned community". Rude public behavior is discouraged and can in
theory be enforced. In practice, everybody gets along well there. How's
that for city life?
-- Tony West
On 4/2/2010 8:36 AM, Wilma de Soto wrote:
Tony,
In your response to Kimm with the term "pro-decay forces", is a fine example
of the mindset behind the forming of the UCNeighbors listserv.
Let me say that derision of the UnivCity listserv is not the primary reason
for many of the subscribers to UCNeighbors, but it is for the founder and
several people close to him. Kyle's motives were anything but inscutable.
I cannot forget the comments such as, "were civilized over here", there's
nothing but crazies at the purple listserv". Right on up to the latest
comments about "higher neighborhood input versus lower neighborhood input",
"pro-decay forces."
In fairness, I have to acknowledge my reticence to join UCNeighbors may be a
question of cultural differences. I have lived in the city my entire life. I
have no personal experience with planned communities, or suburban
communities whose make-up is much less diverse and who seek to ban "the
other" from their midst.
Those sorts of communities that are deliberately set up to exclude certain
types of people for whatever reasons are incompatible to my existence and
cultural mindset.
However, the people who formed UCNeighbors may have had experience with
these sort of communities and actually like them and prefer them to the
"takes all kinds" approach of the purple listserv. The fact they closed
their archives from the public did not suggest neighborliness to me at its
onset.
UCNeighbors may have evolved into just stimulating community discussion now
and I say good. Its original premise as well as the continued disparagement
of people on this listserv is the reason why I, in good conscious, cannot
join them no matter how many nice people are subscribed there.
My apologies for my viewpoint and shortcomings on this topic.
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