I wasn't sure if the Orion was one of them or not. I think I know the 
answer to this question (correct me if I am wrong). IIRC the pre-Radeon 
cards didn't support OpenGL either entirely or it didn't support some 
protocols/commands that were needed for Extreme.

-Robyn

On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 11:28 PM, Will Schoumaker wrote:

>        While it meets the minimum 16mb requirement no 16mb video card is
> known to work with PCI Extreme. I wish it did as I have a Rage Orion
> very nice card. I don't remember the details but a reason was give why
> no Rage 128 card will run Quartz extreme. At this time the Radeon Mac
> and Radeon 7000 PCI cards are the only ones known to work with PCI
> extreme. Will S


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