<quote who="Robert M. Reed"> >>>Other OSX turn-offs: >>>-System-owned files (Lord, save me from another clean install) >> >>The "system" is a real user in a real OS (like OS X and Windows XP). >> It needs to own files in order to use/modify them, just like any other >> user. > But does "system" need to be sole owner of so many files? (rhetorical > question)
Technically, it doesn't need to be owner of any of those files, but then technically, the machine doesn't have to boot up for you either ;) >> All modern OSes are like this. It's called Security - get used to >> it. > After 8 years of being subjected to Windoze at work, no, I don't > think I'm ever going to get used to "Security". I don't think Microsoft knows what the word means.... > > I used to use MacOS because it was was fun, easy, and non-fascist when > it came to modifications. Now maybe I'm just using it because it's not > Windoze. Hey, OSX is still fun, but also stable, sure we had to lose some of the things that we had grown accustomed to, but with the complex of an OS, it was either batten down the System Folder, or let newbies screw it up and then complain that they machine gives them a flashing folder icon on startup. I'll live with not being able to change some files (that rarely ever got looked at anyhow) so that I can use a system that will run for weeks without crashing. OS9 is fairly stable, but it pales next to OSX, or any *NIX for that matter. I don't care what Linus Torvald (sp?) says, OSX is a *NIX platform! >> >> Yes, there could be more files in the System folder, and yes, they >>all need to be there. > Try this. Do whatever you need to do to make all files in the system > folder visible to a search (I did the search in OS9). Look for > occurrences of files that start with "Dutch". I get 283 files. A > search for "Italian" turned up a similar number of files. And so on for > several other languages. > Or if you speak twelve languages and need help files in all of them, > look in system-library-extensions and figure out just how many of those > files are necessary for your system. > Or if you don't have an Airport Card and have no intention of ever > getting one, check for "Airport" in system. > In OS9, with Extension Manager and some knowledge of how the system > folder worked, it was easy to get rid of a lot of the unnecessary > clutter. The KEXTs for stuff like the Airport card, doesn't use much room, and zero memory, because the kernal doesn't load them unless needed. Keep in mind that if you had a supported machine, you would be using those files. As for the foriegn languages, remember, this system is based on Unicode. You can reinstall the system and have the installed not install any of the localazation files, it will save you about 200MB of HD space. You can still get rid of unenecissary files if you need to, but all of those files to have one very nice feature, you can put the HD into another machine and everything on the new machine will work just as if you had installed the system on it. > >>That's why it's called an Operating SYSTEM, as in more than one. It's >> a SYSTEM of files and programs that allow you to OPERATE the computer. >> Get it? > Thanks to the CAPITAL letters, I think I'm able to GET it. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND ;) > >>>Why does Safari have 16 cache folders with 16 subfolders in each? How >>> about an iTrim app for reducing system folder size?) >> >>Dunno about this one, I haven't really done much with Safari. But >> really, who cares if it has 1000 cache folders? Drive space is >> cheap. Why does IE for OS9 need a dozen files in the extensions folder? > I've been working on the assumption that a less bloated system is a > good thing. It would use less memory, file searches would go faster, > etc. OSX is a little different when it comes to bloat, the extra stuff doesn't get loading, so it doesn't use CPU or memory. They do take up HD space, and you are right about files searches, although, most searches don't bother with checking in the System Folder unless you specify it. > I'm probably over-simplifying things, but if I wanted > complexity, would I be using a Mac? OSX is still way easier to navigate through the sludge than WinXP ever will be. -Rob ------------ Microsoft has announced a new OS today. It is supposed to combine the portability of WindowsCE with the ease of use of WindowsME and the stability to WindowsNT. It is to be called WindowsCEMENT. -- -- Unsupported OS X is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Unsupported OS X list info <http://lowendmac.com/lists/unsupported.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive <http://www.mail-archive.com/unsupportedosx%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
