perhaps, and i hope so.  to be honest, i haven't played with os x much, and won't till 
i
get a proper hardware firewall up.  it'll take a while for me to learn the *nix stuff, 
and
there are vulnerabilities and other problems, and since running a software firewall, i
know there are an awfull lot of morons trying to hack in, even on  dialup line with a
dynamic ip.  and i do care a lot about privacy and security, partially because i hope 
to
have intelectual property eventually (parts of which will doubtless be documented on my
computer) and also because i have a lot of interest that scare some people (several of 
my
friends have commented that it's a good thing i'm a good guy, i've got a genious iq 
and if
i were a whacko, i'd be pretty dangerous, i simply understand how vulnerable many, many
systems are and how easy it is to reduce order to chaos, fortunately the whacko's are
always incredibly incompetant in terms of using technology, honest, there's nothing 
that
complicated about destruction!).

in any case, third party modifications to any os tend to be a bad thing, particularly 
when
the os is upgraded without considering how it will impact popular mods, i've seen it a 
lot
with windows, and the mac os.  but some people can't resist whistles and bells, 
myself, i
just want an simple interface, i don't need sound effects with every action, animated
icons, or any other flash.  if you go for the flash, best not to upgrade the os until
updated versions of the bells and whistles are out, they often ignore standards, then
again the os writers often change the rules as well, it's the lack of coordination  
that
usually causes most of the problems.

Kris Tilford wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, Oct 18, 2003, at 14:32 US/Central, Unsupported OS X wrote:
> 
> > From: Philip Stortz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: 10.2.8 downgraded
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> > makes it more secure, it doesn't.  i'm on a lot of security list,
> > "secrecy" is the mark of
> > snake oil in security, and the haxies in general are not the type of
> > thing that will
> > enhance reliability, nor would i expect them to not break upgrades,
> > and break them badly.
> 
> Perhaps we're talking about different things here with the word haxie?
> I was talking about the Unsanity products like ClearDock, FruitMenu,
> CeePeeU, WindowShadeX, etc.
> I've had almost no problems with them other than minor things, and it
> was Unsanity that was early to point out the problems with Apple's
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