punten ah mang rahmat, rarasaan 8 september teh dinten Jum'at naha bisa ka 
poe minggu kituw ...heuheuheuheu.

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keur tunduh euy ngadagoan balik

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From: "MRachmat Rawyani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <urangsunda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] dodogmaan


> kanggo bahan bandingan, asana teh kompas minggu kamari
> (8 september) aya artikel, anu netelakeun aya buku
> edisi bahasa Indonesia anu nyaritakeun perkara  Injil
> Barnabas, anu beda jeung injil anu resmi diaku ku
> kalangan gereja ayeuna. Bedna teh yaeta, Judas anu
> dina injil resmi dianggap jalma hianat, ari dina injil
> Barnabas mah, Judas teh santri anu pangsatiana jeung
> pang taatna ngamalkeun ajaran Nabi Isa.
> Siga heboh "Da vinci code", sigana perkara Injil
> barnabas ieu oge bakal ngagoncangkeun iman umat
> kristiani.
> Dina eta artikel teh aya inti anu paling penting,
> nyaeta netelakeun realitas anu geus jadi hiji
> kayakinan (dogma, tea meureun) Yudas teh jalma ingkar.
> Tapi dina Injil Barnabas mah sabalikna. Pertanyaannya
> nyaeta, naha  kayakinan urang teh hiji-hijna alat anu
> sahih noong realitas. Lamun aya kanyataan sejen (jiga
> injil Barnabas), mana anu bisa dipercaya? Kumaha sikep
> urang ku ayana realitas anu beda jeung anu ku urang
> geus dipercaya?
>
> baktos,
>
> mrachmatrawyani
>
>
>
>
> yudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Aya benang beureum antara postingan Carmen Ladin
>> jeung postingan ngeunaan bidadari. Beunang beureumna
>> teh nyaeta pertanyaan: "Naha ajakan supaya teu
>> ngomongkeun masalah sorga (atawa naraka) teh kaasup
>> dogma dina Islam?"
>>   Sigana mah teu payus ngomongkeun dogma mu tacan
>> apal naon dogma teh. Ceuk Wikipedia (macem2 definisi
>> dogma aya di  http://www.answers.com/topic/dogma)
>> Dogma teh kayakinan/doktrin nu geus nanjeur nu
>> dianut ku hiji agama, ideology atawa organisasi naon
>> wae. Dogma sifatna mutlak jeung teu bisa diganggu
>> gugat atawa diragukeun. Tina definisi ieu boh dogma
>> agama atawa dogma lainna (misalna dogma elmu) boga
>> arti nu netral. malah nurutkeun kuring, prinsip2
>> dogmatis teh penting pisan pikeun pondasi kamajuan
>> hiji ideologi.Permasalahanna lain aya henteuna
>> dogma, tapi "bener " atawa "salahna" eta dogma.
>>
>>   Naha dina agama urang (Islam) aya dogma? Ceuk Kang
>> John B. Henderson ceunah [1] : "Dogma, nu biasana
>> dipupusti dina kayakinan atawa doktrin, di Islam teu
>> boga posisi nu luhung siga di di Kristen. Dina Islam
>> teu aya hiji oge otorisasi kaagamaan nu tugasna
>> nangtukeun jeung nanjeurkeun (kataatan kana) dogma.
>> Dibandingkeun Kristen heubeul, Islam leuwih
>> ngarupakeun agama praktek dibandingkeun agama
>> kayakinan, leuih ngarupakeun hukum dibandingkeun
>> teologi, tur ngutamakeun orthopraksi lain ortodoksi,
>> siga kagambar ku ngan aya hiji [2] diantara lima
>> pilar Islam nu ngarujuk kana kayakinan" (The
>> Construction of Orthodoxy and Heresy� Hal.  10).
>>
>>   Mun siga kitu, kunaon aya ayat nu (nadana)
>> ngalarang loba tatanyam utamana dina hal-hal goib
>> (misalna iraha datangna kiamat, QS 7:187)? Pamanggih
>> kuring, alesan utamana mah masalah kagunaan ngabahas
>> masalah2 goib siga kieu nu teu sabanding jeung
>> hesena ngajawab eta2 pertanyaan. Dina bukuna, the
>> Celestine Prophecy, Mang J (James Redfield hehehe)
>> nyebutkeun yen salah sahiji kasangtukang mucunghulna
>> jaman pencerahan (nu mawa urang ka jaman modern) teh
>> ku lantaran harita (sabagean) jalma geus cape
>> neangan jawaban pikeun pertanyaan2 ngeunaan hal goib
>> siga: Naha enya Pangeran aya? Kamana urang sanggeus
>> paeh?
>>
>>   Pertanyaan2 goib kieu harita geus rebuan taun
>> dicoba dijawab ku manusa (misalna realisme-na Plato
>> persus idealisme-na Aristoteles). Nepi ayeuna can
>> kacaritakeun aya nu bisa ngajawab masalah2 sacara
>> ngayakinkeun. Mungkin wae hal-hal eta bisa kajawab
>> kahaereupna. Tapi iraha kapanggihna? Sabaraha lila
>> urang kudu nungguan? Naha katungkulan ku urang?
>> Padahal iraha wae urang kudu siap dipenta tanggung
>> jawab amal jeung iman masing-masing, henteu
>> kolektiV.
>>
>>   Saterusna, asa aneh jeung teu asup akal mun
>> masalah2 ieu kajawab di dunya. Lamun urang geus
>> nyaho hal-hal gaib ieu (siga kumaha kaayaan aherat,
>> sorga/naraka, jrrd), tangtu we kabeh jelma bakal
>> jadi jelma nu soleh. Naon nileyna iman jeung amal
>> urang? Padahal (keur urang Islam) urang hirup teh
>> pikeun dipeunteun mana jelma nu paling alus amalna
>> (11:7 kitu?).
>>
>>   Jadi alesan teu dianjurkeunna tumanya hal-hal nu
>> goib (kaasup masalah bidadari di surga) dina Islam
>> ceuk kuring mah lain dogma atawa diaramkeun (CMIIW).
>> Sigana mah ukur dipikahewa (meureun) ku lantaran
>> mubazir tea. Ngan bisi disebutkeun ngalanggar HAM,
>> mun enya panasaran pisan, usul abdi mah seug geura
>> eksperimen nyobaan dikubur (atawa neangan relawan
>> pikeun dikubur), susuganan bisa balik deui pikeun
>> mere kasaksian siga kumaha alam di ditu. Tangtu asup
>> ka jurnal ilmiah tur bisa jadi meunang hadiah Nobel.
>> Tong hilap bejaan abdi ...
>>
>>   Wallahu �alam, muga2 urang dijauhkeun tina elmu
>> nu teu  mangfaat...
>>
>>   Baktos
>>   Yudi
>>
>>   Katerangan:
>>   [1] Basa aslina: "Dogma in Islam, as enshrined in
>> creeds and doctrines, did not occupy such a central
>> place as it did in Christianity. Nor in Islam did
>> there exist any time-honored central ecclesiastical
>> authority for determining and enforcing such
>> dogmatic orthodoxy. In comparison with early
>> Christianity, Islam was more a religion of practice
>> than belief, of law more than theology, of
>> orthopraxy more than orthodoxy, as illustrated by
>> the fact that only one of the five pillars of Islam
>> focuses on matters of belief."  Kutipannana aya di
>> dieu:
>>
> http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3958
>>
>>   [2] maksudna sahadat, hiji2na rukun Islam ngeunaan
>> kayakinan.
>>
>>      ..:::..
>>
>>
>>   Yudi Irmawan
>>   Research Student
>>   Bradford University School of Management
>>   Office: Heaton Mount HM26
>>   Emm Lane, Bradford BD9 4JL
>> West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
>>   http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/management/external/
>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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