Maksad teh ping 8 Oktober, dasar atuh nyerat bari jeung beuteung kukurubukan tea paning.
baktos, mrachmatrawyani --- Buyung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > punten ah mang rahmat, rarasaan 8 september teh > dinten Jum'at naha bisa ka > poe minggu kituw ...heuheuheuheu. > > by > keur tunduh euy ngadagoan balik > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MRachmat Rawyani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] dodogmaan > > > > kanggo bahan bandingan, asana teh kompas minggu > kamari > > (8 september) aya artikel, anu netelakeun aya buku > > edisi bahasa Indonesia anu nyaritakeun perkara > Injil > > Barnabas, anu beda jeung injil anu resmi diaku ku > > kalangan gereja ayeuna. Bedna teh yaeta, Judas anu > > dina injil resmi dianggap jalma hianat, ari dina > injil > > Barnabas mah, Judas teh santri anu pangsatiana > jeung > > pang taatna ngamalkeun ajaran Nabi Isa. > > Siga heboh "Da vinci code", sigana perkara Injil > > barnabas ieu oge bakal ngagoncangkeun iman umat > > kristiani. > > Dina eta artikel teh aya inti anu paling penting, > > nyaeta netelakeun realitas anu geus jadi hiji > > kayakinan (dogma, tea meureun) Yudas teh jalma > ingkar. > > Tapi dina Injil Barnabas mah sabalikna. > Pertanyaannya > > nyaeta, naha kayakinan urang teh hiji-hijna alat > anu > > sahih noong realitas. Lamun aya kanyataan sejen > (jiga > > injil Barnabas), mana anu bisa dipercaya? Kumaha > sikep > > urang ku ayana realitas anu beda jeung anu ku > urang > > geus dipercaya? > > > > baktos, > > > > mrachmatrawyani > > > > > > > > > > yudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Aya benang beureum antara postingan Carmen Ladin > >> jeung postingan ngeunaan bidadari. Beunang > beureumna > >> teh nyaeta pertanyaan: "Naha ajakan supaya teu > >> ngomongkeun masalah sorga (atawa naraka) teh > kaasup > >> dogma dina Islam?" > >> Sigana mah teu payus ngomongkeun dogma mu tacan > >> apal naon dogma teh. Ceuk Wikipedia (macem2 > definisi > >> dogma aya di http://www.answers.com/topic/dogma) > >> Dogma teh kayakinan/doktrin nu geus nanjeur nu > >> dianut ku hiji agama, ideology atawa organisasi > naon > >> wae. Dogma sifatna mutlak jeung teu bisa diganggu > >> gugat atawa diragukeun. Tina definisi ieu boh > dogma > >> agama atawa dogma lainna (misalna dogma elmu) > boga > >> arti nu netral. malah nurutkeun kuring, prinsip2 > >> dogmatis teh penting pisan pikeun pondasi > kamajuan > >> hiji ideologi.Permasalahanna lain aya henteuna > >> dogma, tapi "bener " atawa "salahna" eta dogma. > >> > >> Naha dina agama urang (Islam) aya dogma? Ceuk > Kang > >> John B. Henderson ceunah [1] : "Dogma, nu biasana > >> dipupusti dina kayakinan atawa doktrin, di Islam > teu > >> boga posisi nu luhung siga di di Kristen. Dina > Islam > >> teu aya hiji oge otorisasi kaagamaan nu tugasna > >> nangtukeun jeung nanjeurkeun (kataatan kana) > dogma. > >> Dibandingkeun Kristen heubeul, Islam leuwih > >> ngarupakeun agama praktek dibandingkeun agama > >> kayakinan, leuih ngarupakeun hukum dibandingkeun > >> teologi, tur ngutamakeun orthopraksi lain > ortodoksi, > >> siga kagambar ku ngan aya hiji [2] diantara lima > >> pilar Islam nu ngarujuk kana kayakinan" (The > >> Construction of Orthodoxy and Heresy� Hal. > 10). > >> > >> Mun siga kitu, kunaon aya ayat nu (nadana) > >> ngalarang loba tatanyam utamana dina hal-hal goib > >> (misalna iraha datangna kiamat, QS 7:187)? > Pamanggih > >> kuring, alesan utamana mah masalah kagunaan > ngabahas > >> masalah2 goib siga kieu nu teu sabanding jeung > >> hesena ngajawab eta2 pertanyaan. Dina bukuna, the > >> Celestine Prophecy, Mang J (James Redfield > hehehe) > >> nyebutkeun yen salah sahiji kasangtukang > mucunghulna > >> jaman pencerahan (nu mawa urang ka jaman modern) > teh > >> ku lantaran harita (sabagean) jalma geus cape > >> neangan jawaban pikeun pertanyaan2 ngeunaan hal > goib > >> siga: Naha enya Pangeran aya? Kamana urang > sanggeus > >> paeh? > >> > >> Pertanyaan2 goib kieu harita geus rebuan taun > >> dicoba dijawab ku manusa (misalna realisme-na > Plato > >> persus idealisme-na Aristoteles). Nepi ayeuna can > >> kacaritakeun aya nu bisa ngajawab masalah2 sacara > >> ngayakinkeun. Mungkin wae hal-hal eta bisa > kajawab > >> kahaereupna. Tapi iraha kapanggihna? Sabaraha > lila > >> urang kudu nungguan? Naha katungkulan ku urang? > >> Padahal iraha wae urang kudu siap dipenta > tanggung > >> jawab amal jeung iman masing-masing, henteu > >> kolektiV. > >> > >> Saterusna, asa aneh jeung teu asup akal mun > >> masalah2 ieu kajawab di dunya. Lamun urang geus > >> nyaho hal-hal gaib ieu (siga kumaha kaayaan > aherat, > >> sorga/naraka, jrrd), tangtu we kabeh jelma bakal > >> jadi jelma nu soleh. Naon nileyna iman jeung amal > >> urang? Padahal (keur urang Islam) urang hirup teh > >> pikeun dipeunteun mana jelma nu paling alus > amalna > >> (11:7 kitu?). > >> > >> Jadi alesan teu dianjurkeunna tumanya hal-hal > nu > >> goib (kaasup masalah bidadari di surga) dina > Islam > >> ceuk kuring mah lain dogma atawa diaramkeun > (CMIIW). > >> Sigana mah ukur dipikahewa (meureun) ku lantaran > >> mubazir tea. Ngan bisi disebutkeun ngalanggar > HAM, > >> mun enya panasaran pisan, usul abdi mah seug > geura > >> eksperimen nyobaan dikubur (atawa neangan relawan > >> pikeun dikubur), susuganan bisa balik deui pikeun > >> mere kasaksian siga kumaha alam di ditu. Tangtu > asup > >> ka jurnal ilmiah tur bisa jadi meunang hadiah > Nobel. > >> Tong hilap bejaan abdi ... > >> > >> Wallahu �alam, muga2 urang dijauhkeun tina > elmu > >> nu teu mangfaat... > >> > >> Baktos > >> Yudi > >> > >> Katerangan: > >> [1] Basa aslina: "Dogma in Islam, as enshrined > in > >> creeds and doctrines, did not occupy such a > central > >> place as it did in Christianity. Nor in Islam did > >> there exist any time-honored central > ecclesiastical > >> authority for determining and enforcing such > >> dogmatic orthodoxy. In comparison with early > >> Christianity, Islam was more a religion of > practice > >> than belief, of law more than theology, of > >> orthopraxy more than orthodoxy, as illustrated by > >> the fact that only one of the five pillars of > Islam > >> focuses on matters of belief." Kutipannana aya > di > >> dieu: > >> > > > http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3958 > >> > >> [2] maksudna sahadat, hiji2na rukun Islam > ngeunaan > >> kayakinan. > >> > >> ..:::.. > >> > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
