The one thing vista has going for it and the only reason it is being used
here is that the 64bit version can address more than 3GB of Ram for an
application


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Neil Cooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  A very fine note. Totally appreciated.
>
> Many thanks Aidan.
>
> Neil Cooke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Aidan O Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Another nail in RS's coffin?
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> To maybe clear up this Truespace and Microsoft thing a little.
>
> It was a section of Microsoft that bought out Truespace / Caligari - the
> Virtual Earth Team. If one looks at the Google thing with Google Earth -
> they bought out Sketchup. In both cases part of the aim is to have a free 3D
> app as a way of creating 3D content for these environments. Truespace 7.6
> now has a connect to Virtual Earth to add content  ( an icon bottom right in
> the Workspace area, click / hold the Workspace HW settings Icon, more Icons
> pop up, its one of these ).
>
> What Google did with Sketchup as we all know is to provide two versions -
> crippled type standard version and a pro version. If we look at this
> philosophy perhaps this is what Microsoft will do - a Truespace standard and
> pro ( paid for ).
>
> at the moment you get TS 7.6 FREE forever - BUT with the 7 series of TS
> Caligari  began to add external Renderers as a feature - in this case VRAY.
> So when you now try to render from the new Workspace area in TS it needs /
> asks for that external renderer. I hear you say - whats the point - well the
> new Workspace area is a Live 3D edit window. All textures and the like shown
> rendered live as you edit - a first of its kind, based on Directx
> technology.
>
> If you move over to the model area - this is basically TS 6.6. It has the
> traditional Lightworks renderer BUT now also Virtualight. The latter has
> features like GI and Caustics. You can chose either or.  Their is also a 3rd
> party cheap RENDERMAN plug called DRIBBLE - it is a current plugin too,
> about $35.
>
> One of the big things with Roman, Caligari ex Boss,  was collaborative 3D.
> TS 7.6 includes this also. In the Workspace area is where you access this (
> icon bar bottom right ). Check out chapter 12 in the manual. You need to set
> up an account at the TRUEPLACES page from the Caligari site front page to
> join in. This means you can load up models and the like and have others over
> the net join with you inside TS  editing these models / scenes.
>
> The one huge difference between Truespace and Sketchup is that TS is a full
> 3D app including everything from Modelling, SDS, NURBS, Animation, Character
> Animation ( very good tools here ), physics, NODE BASED SHADER SYSTEM in
> Workspace ...... blah blah ... go to the TS site for a larger feature list.
>
> Re the Interface - yes it is Quirky, but not a huge curve really. The
> underlying features are well worth any effort. AND the I/F is FULLY
> customizable down to changing the Icons to text if you wish.
>
> The app itself is quirky in comparison to other apps - in that it has this
> connection to online worlds and collaborative features. One thing I have
> found is TS has a huge list of import / export filters, way more than alot
> of other apps out there including COLLADA, .X, .bvh and all the usuals plus
> more. To see these open TS, Workspace area. Over right on the Library
> section, right click a library and have a look at Import / Export options
> from this menu.
>
> BUT AS I HAVE STATED ALREADY  - If I use TS it is as part of a workflow. So
> I might not use ALL of TS eg - model etc in REALSOFT and into TS for
> collaboration OR for its Character Animation tools - only learn the parts
> you need.
>
> AND NO - I dont think it will be blended into VISTA - from my experience
> installing systems for clients and the like - VISTA is all but dead, most
> businesses I know prefer XP PRO, buy machines with VISTA but "Upgrade" to XP
> PRO. Microsoft have all but admitted this - they have hauled forward Windows
> 7 from 2012 to 2010ish. DELL sell systems with Vista but an option for XP
> PRO if you want.
>
> Vista eats your system resource wise. Try an experiment - two same systems
> side by side - one with Vista other with XP PRO - no comparison, XP wins out
> by a long shot. After all an op sys is a base for all other APPLICATION
> Software, the more minimalist it is in interfering with your system the
> better. You want the UMMPH for your applications not the op sys. Vista in my
> opinion broke that "rule".
>
> Cheers
> Aidan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 05:47 30/07/2008, you wrote:
>
> On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Jean-Sebastien Perron wrote:
>
>  Maybe micrososft will incluse truespace in their next vista service pack
> to improve it's sales.
>
>
>
> Since just about every version of Truespace has  basically been given away
> free at some stage I don't know if this would have much of an impact.  The
> software is not more widely used because most people don't perceive it worth
> the bother of investing in learning the interface ( I don'
>
>
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