+user@ Thanks Joan for bringing this up!
Thanks Lena for your perspective and courage to voice it here. Thanks all for your input. +1 on reworking the logo. - an animal on the couch could do the trick, or just no person, but see the next point, really. I’m not worried about logo confusion with Couchbase. +1 on letting professionals do it. -1 on a colour change. Maybe toning it towards the Fauxtony orange is an option, but see the previous point. -1000 on renaming the project. +1 on moving on from “Relax” as a theme. It’s a Katzism and out of date as far as the people who run the project now. Something around sync would be nice, any other completely unrelated whimsy would also be appreciated. Best Jan -- > On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:04 , Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: > > On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> > > I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and > clarify the situation as often as possible > > > > >> >> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever >>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >> rename >>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >>> >>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an arbitrary >>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >>>> >>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >>>> >>>> Eight Ball >>>> >>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >>>> >>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is worth >>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if it >> is to >>>> be done. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. Max >>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >>>>> >>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into >>>> everything >>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >> references) >>>>> to >>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do you >> want >>>> to >>>>> be >>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from the >>>> current >>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the last >>>> time I >>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin >>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *SyncDB* >>>>>>> The database that syncs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >> 04:40:26 >>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache >>>>> ]Jason >>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, >>>> Noah >>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: "d...@couchdb.apache.org" <d...@couchdb.apache.org> >>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the name too. >> I >>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. It's >>>> important >>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and changing it >> in >>>> a >>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we will >> all >>>>> wonder >>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that strength >>>> can >>>>> we >>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons of >>>>> attention >>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already isn't >>>>> enough, we >>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding baggage and >>>>>>> trademark problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the name! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noah Slater >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Wenk >>> Hamburg - Germany >>> RockIt! >>> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >> >> >> -- >> Noah Slater >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > > > > -- > Andy Wenk > Hamburg - Germany > RockIt! > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
