This is not at all surprising, in fact it makes perfect sense. Thanks for your help.
Drew Stephens Rippe & Kingston Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (513) 977-4573 Visit us at: www.rippe.com 1077 Celestial Street, Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-1696 ======================================================================== ======= -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Why's everybody baggin' on OFBiz lately In other words, you can curse the darkness or light a candle. For what it's worth, I truly appreciate the developer community and the committers. I'm excited about where OFBiz is going. Tim Ruppert wrote: > I just wanted to move this topic to something that would be less > related > to one particular topic and more related to what appears to be a > deteriorating tone in the user community. > > As everyone knows, there is a A LOT of work constantly going on around > the user & dev communities here at OFBiz - and thanks to this we're > starting to see a bunch of new, potential "power" users coming into the > fold - which is exactly what this community needs. > > When I take a step back from what is going on in my regular work life > and concentrate on the mailing lists, my personal opinion is that there > is a lot of baggin' on OFBiz going on around here! Most of the people > around here are experienced developers who have worked on a number of > different open source projects, so I guess I'm a little surprised by > where things appear to be heading. > > Without going into specifics and calling individual people out on the > carpet, I would like to have everyone just think about these things: > > 1. All committers and experienced OFBiz developers are all working > towards the same goal - to better the project. > 2. When you're not finding something that you need, it's much more > effective to ask where things are found - rather than criticize the > current set up. > 3. If something you want is not available, you can either head a group > that wants to develop / document it, develop it yourself, or get someone > more experienced in OFBiz to champion your cause. > 4. If you NEED something committed back into OFBiz and are on a strict > timeline, build in a small amount of funds to get a committer to look at > it. Often times people are too busy with paying work to look over > EVERYTHING - cash can, at times change priorities for everyone. This is > not to imply that being a committer is a paying gig - just that if your > stuff is a priority more for you than the community, this can help. > 5. It's far less stressful to try to get what you want than it is to be > right! What I mean by this, is think about what you're saying and how > you're saying it. It can go a long way towards getting you what you > really want. > > > Anyways, thanks for listening and I hope this helps people start to > structure their requests & needs in a way that motivates people to help > them. We need everyone to come in and be productive community members > so that we can all work more efficiently - let's see what we can do to > rally around the project! > > Cheers, > Tim > -- > Tim Ruppert > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > o:801.649.6594 > f:801.649.6595 > >
