Scott,

You are correct. Yet, you forgot to mention that Jacopo used 'we' in direct
relation to the words attitude and trust. So, he is not talking about just
his own feelings but about the collective perception.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Scott Gray <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Jacopo's first words in that email were "In my opinion".  That's an
> extremely important point.
>
> There are no guidelines because each PMC member is free to vote however
> they feel would best serve the project.  Any of us could provide our own
> personal guidelines but they would still just be personal opinions.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 17/10/2014, at 10:55 pm, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > I your posting regarding the vote to keep the PROJECTMGR in releases (see
> > here: http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/maha6pwlatlxbb64 ) you addressed
> > aspects as ' the right attitude' and 'trust them' in respect to inviting
> > committers.
> >
> > In the committers role and responsibilities page (see here:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Committers+Roles+and+Responsibilities
> > ) we can read about the responsibilities. But words like attitude and
> trust
> > are not not mentioned.
> >
> > Can you, as the PMC Chair, explain what the vision and expectations are
> > regarding this right attitude and trust?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> In my opinion we should avoid reconsidering the idea of creating
> >> committers with limited access; instead I would prefer to invite
> committers
> >> when we trust them as individuals, when they have demonstrated the right
> >> attitude and skills to work in our community etc... and demonstrate
> enough
> >> technical skills for the work they have to do; even if it is limited to
> a
> >> subset of the OFBiz codebase they will get full access to the repos but
> of
> >> course they will limit their field of action to the area they know,
> without
> >> requiring us to enforce commit rights limitations. As I said this can
> only
> >> work if we trust them 100% as persons at first.
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
>

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