Pierre, Yes, in his opinion that is what we do. It's probably a correct opinion too (in my opinion). But at the end of the day my point stands, PMC members are individuals and each have different opinions about what makes a good committer.
I'm not trying to be combative, if you disagree I'm happy to discuss it. Regards Scott On 17/10/2014, at 11:19 pm, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > You are correct. Yet, you forgot to mention that Jacopo used 'we' in direct > relation to the words attitude and trust. So, he is not talking about just > his own feelings but about the collective perception. > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Pierre, >> >> Jacopo's first words in that email were "In my opinion". That's an >> extremely important point. >> >> There are no guidelines because each PMC member is free to vote however >> they feel would best serve the project. Any of us could provide our own >> personal guidelines but they would still just be personal opinions. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 17/10/2014, at 10:55 pm, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Jacopo, >>> >>> I your posting regarding the vote to keep the PROJECTMGR in releases (see >>> here: http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/maha6pwlatlxbb64 ) you addressed >>> aspects as ' the right attitude' and 'trust them' in respect to inviting >>> committers. >>> >>> In the committers role and responsibilities page (see here: >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Committers+Roles+and+Responsibilities >>> ) we can read about the responsibilities. But words like attitude and >> trust >>> are not not mentioned. >>> >>> Can you, as the PMC Chair, explain what the vision and expectations are >>> regarding this right attitude and trust? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jacopo Cappellato < >>> jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In my opinion we should avoid reconsidering the idea of creating >>>> committers with limited access; instead I would prefer to invite >> committers >>>> when we trust them as individuals, when they have demonstrated the right >>>> attitude and skills to work in our community etc... and demonstrate >> enough >>>> technical skills for the work they have to do; even if it is limited to >> a >>>> subset of the OFBiz codebase they will get full access to the repos but >> of >>>> course they will limit their field of action to the area they know, >> without >>>> requiring us to enforce commit rights limitations. As I said this can >> only >>>> work if we trust them 100% as persons at first. >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> >>
