Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks Only admin in om can change room type/name
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files to > OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with this > plugin. > > > The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files. > > > Lets take your analogy of a lecture room : > > > Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants to > delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now see > a clean WB -no objects. > > > The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear. Currently > when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB and the > mistake reappears. > > . > > Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time. > Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same > as OM. > > > Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to remove > the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-( > > > > > > > > On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > Hello Daniel, > > No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM. > Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as OM->Admin is > designed for admins > > I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world > > Imaging following situation > Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.) > The auditory is clean and empty > Only some "Initial" materials are being set up > > Then the first class ends > The Black board is all written > All slides are at some non-initial positions etc. > > Then next class should have same lecture ... > > And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to the > initial position" - and it works exactly like this > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as clean >> wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear. >> >> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as >> removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files. >> >> >> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I >> try ? >> >> >> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> Daniel, >> >> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading >> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove files >> to the room >> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference >> rooms->Room->Room files >> >> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean >> single WB >> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all contents >> is dropped >> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its >> white-board indices .... >> >> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we >>> should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The >>> files should not reappear on the WB. >>> >>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be >>> removed from the file list. >>> >>> I have included a picture that shows what should be the >>> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> Yes >>> It is by design >>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being >>> accessed the first time >>> >>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the room >>> after the lesson is over .... >>> >>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files >>>> from the WB in real time though , does it ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>> >>>> No, >>>> >>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in >>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files) >>>> >>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear >>>> So I see no area of improvement here >>>> >>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this >>>>> is the confusing aspect. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they >>>>> are deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not >>>>> deleting. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dan >>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next) >>>>> >>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being >>>>> removed >>>>> >>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded >>>>> So WB will look like on first enter >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing >>>>>> is removed from the WB. >>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel, >>>>>> >>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room >>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded >>>>>> to the room >>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will >>>>>> remain "as-is" >>>>>> >>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items >>>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to >>>>>>> grasp. >>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real >>>>>>> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does >>>>>>> that work? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files >>>>>>> from "auto pre-load" >>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some >>>>>>> files to WB >>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and >>>>>>> files) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB >>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is >>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>> convoluted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems >>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote: >>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this >>>>>>>> Real >>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality >>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> WBR >>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> WBR >>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WBR >>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> WBR >>> Maxim aka solomax >>> >>> >> >> -- >> WBR >> Maxim aka solomax >> >> > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax > >
