The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be ideal
from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you our interface
that hooks into your APIs:
You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow the
teacher to interact with the API and perform the same results as
Clean Wb in OM UI.
I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your software.
On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
Only admin in om can change room type/name
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete
files to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in
moodle with this plugin.
The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher
wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'.
Teacher should now see a clean WB -no objects.
The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the
WB and the mistake reappears.
.
Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real
time. Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should
be the same as OM.
Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to
remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Hello Daniel,
No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as
OM->Admin is designed for admins
I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real
world
Imaging following situation
Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
The auditory is clean and empty
Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
Then the first class ends
The Black board is all written
All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
Then next class should have same lecture ...
And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory
status to the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same
as clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and
not reappear.
If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same
as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or
shall I try ?
On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
add/remove files to the room
This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with
Room clean single WB
It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with
all contents is dropped
Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and
its white-board indices ....
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear
WB' we should honor that request with deleting
the files on the WB. The files should not reappear
on the WB.
If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it
should be removed from the file list.
I have included a picture that shows what should
be the equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Yes
It is by design
Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the
room being accessed the first time
The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able
to check the room after the lesson is over ....
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Deleting files from the list of room files does
not remove the files from the WB in real time
though , does it ?
On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
No,
File are deleted from the list of room files (can
be checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
So I see no area of improvement here
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You delete files from the WB then they
reappear. I think this is the confusing
aspect.
Can you please program it so that you click
delete then they are deleted and do not
reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not
deleting.
Thanks,
Dan
On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
I just have tested (using demo-next)
All objects including manually added files
and drawings are being removed
THEN is there were room files they will be
loaded
So WB will look like on first enter
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The clean WB button does not clean the
files Maxim. Nothing is removed from
the WB.
On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
wrote:
Daniel,
"Room files" is sort of "auto-preload"
list for the room
So if room is accesses for the first
time: these files will be loaded to the room
On the second enter all WB items
including files and drawings will remain
"as-is"
You can use "Clean WB" button this way
all existing room items (including
drawings and manually added items) will
be wiped out
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel
Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sorry for the repetition but the
logic is difficult to grasp.
All I want to do is delete a
file from the WB in real time. I
can not see how the logic below
achieves that.
You say it deletes file from
auto-pre-load. How does that work?
On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
I wrote you many, many times:
delete checkbox only deletes files
from "auto pre-load"
Same way: you can manually draw
something on WB, manually drop some
files to WB
Exit and enter the room and you
will see same WB (with drawing and
files)
You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
Then it will be re-created with new
files
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43,
Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Ok so it is possible to
delete files but the process
is rather
convoluted.
It makes me think 'remove'
files check box should have
beside it a button that
says 'delete files and clean WB.
I created a video of the
process of deleting files. It
seems
complicated. You can view it
in VLC media player.
https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
Thanks
Dan
On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel
Baker wrote:
> Sorry to be harping on about
this but I can't get this Real
> Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>
> Can you please advise how
to make the delete
functionality work.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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