I have been able to edit as teacher the settings. See picture below.
As this has been a matter of contention I would be happy enough to
just delete all WBs. All 20 +
At a later date when everybody concerned feels willing we could
arrange to clean by each WB
On 10/16/2019 1:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the room
for the lesson
And works as designed
Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher to
interact with the API and perform the same results as Clean Wb in
OM UI."
let's imaging such function exists
Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them in the
particular room?
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be
ideal from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you
our interface that hooks into your APIs:
You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow
the teacher to interact with the API and perform the same
results as Clean Wb in OM UI.
I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your
software.
On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
Only admin in om can change room type/name
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and
delete files to OM . You do not have to be an admin to
do that in moodle with this plugin.
The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of
files.
Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake.
Teacher wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean
wb'. Teacher should now see a clean WB -no objects.
The teacher does not want to see the same mistake
reappear. Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is
removed from the WB and the mistake reappears.
.
Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in
real time. Just like how it does in OM currently. The API
should be the same as OM.
Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying
to remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Hello Daniel,
No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way
as OM->Admin is designed for admins
I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the
real world
Imaging following situation
Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
The auditory is clean and empty
Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
Then the first class ends
The Black board is all written
All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
Then next class should have same lecture ...
And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory
status to the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the
same as clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove
files and not reappear.
If teacher wants to remove files it should be the
same as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to
remove files.
That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that
or shall I try ?
On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
add/remove files to the room
This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common
with Room clean single WB
It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards
with all contents is dropped
Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files
and its white-board indices ....
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think if the teacher presses the button
'Clear WB' we should honor that request with
deleting the files on the WB. The files
should not reappear on the WB.
If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then
it should be removed from the file list.
I have included a picture that shows what
should be the equivalent logic in OM and the
Moodle plugin.
On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Yes
It is by design
Room files were designed to be loaded at the time
the room being accessed the first time
The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be
able to check the room after the lesson is over ....
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Deleting files from the list of room files
does not remove the files from the WB in
real time though , does it ?
On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
No,
File are deleted from the list of room files
(can be checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room
files)
After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
So I see no area of improvement here
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You delete files from the WB then
they reappear. I think this is the
confusing aspect.
Can you please program it so that you
click delete then they are deleted and
do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it
is not deleting.
Thanks,
Dan
On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
wrote:
I just have tested (using demo-next)
All objects including manually added
files and drawings are being removed
THEN is there were room files they will
be loaded
So WB will look like on first enter
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel
Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The clean WB button does not
clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
removed from the WB.
On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
"Room files" is sort of
"auto-preload" list for the room
So if room is accesses for the
first time: these files will be
loaded to the room
On the second enter all WB items
including files and drawings will
remain "as-is"
You can use "Clean WB" button this
way all existing room items
(including drawings and manually
added items) will be wiped out
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04,
Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Sorry for the repetition but
the logic is difficult to
grasp.
All I want to do is delete
a file from the WB in real
time. I can not see how the
logic below achieves that.
You say it deletes file from
auto-pre-load. How does that
work?
On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
I wrote you many, many times:
delete checkbox only deletes
files from "auto pre-load"
Same way: you can manually
draw something on WB, manually
drop some files to WB
Exit and enter the room and
you will see same WB (with
drawing and files)
You need to "wipe out" the
whole WB
Then it will be re-created
with new files
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43,
Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Ok so it is possible to
delete files but the
process is rather
convoluted.
It makes me think
'remove' files check
box should have
beside it a button that
says 'delete files and
clean WB.
I created a video of the
process of deleting
files. It seems
complicated. You can view
it in VLC media player.
https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
Thanks
Dan
On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM,
Daniel Baker wrote:
> Sorry to be harping on
about this but I can't
get this Real
> Time deletion to work
in OM 5.
>
> Can you please advise
how to make the delete
functionality work.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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