You may have missed a moodle confiig to stop teacher from doing
admin tasks.
As I have been saying the Clean WB function does not remove
the files. They reappear . Not the desired outcome.
Should clean the same way it cleans in OM UI.
On 10/16/2019 2:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
You were able to perform OM Admin task as Moodle teacher
This is Moodle plugin was designed for
All you do from plugging (except "Clean WB" are ADMIN TASKS)
All these actions can be done in ADMIN OM UI ONLY!!!!!
Current "Clean WB" button do exactly what you want:
1) drop all current white boards
IF room files were configured
2) creates these files and their correspondent white board
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 14:08, Daniel Baker
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have been able to edit as teacher the settings. See picture
below.
As this has been a matter of contention I would be happy
enough to just delete all WBs. All 20 +
At a later date when everybody concerned feels willing we
could arrange to clean by each WB
On 10/16/2019 1:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the
room for the lesson
And works as designed
Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher
to interact with the API and perform the same results as
Clean Wb in OM UI."
let's imaging such function exists
Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them
in the particular room?
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not
be ideal from an API interaction perspective. Let me
show you our interface that hooks into your APIs:
You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would
allow the teacher to interact with the API and perform the
same results as Clean Wb in OM UI.
I personally don't think this is requesting too much from
your software.
On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
Only admin in om can change room type/name
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and
delete files to OM . You do not have to be an admin
to do that in moodle with this plugin.
The teacher does not want to see a reappearance
of files.
Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake.
Teacher wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses '
clean wb'. Teacher should now see a clean WB -no
objects.
The teacher does not want to see the same mistake
reappear. Currently when clicking clean wb nothing
is removed from the WB and the mistake reappears.
.
Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake
in real time. Just like how it does in OM currently.
The API should be the same as OM.
Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop
trying to remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Hello Daniel,
No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb
in OM.
Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same
way as OM->Admin is designed for admins
I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in
the real world
Imaging following situation
Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne
for ex.)
The auditory is clean and empty
Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
Then the first class ends
The Black board is all written
All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
Then next class should have same lecture ...
And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the
auditory status to the initial position" - and it works
exactly like this
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed
the same as clean wb in OM. Yes it should
remove files and not reappear.
If teacher wants to remove files it should
be the same as removing files in OM. Moderators
are able to remove files.
That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do
that or shall I try ?
On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
Add-remove room files has nothing in common with
manual add/remove files to the room
This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in
common with Room clean single WB
It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all
white-boards with all contents is dropped
Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room
files and its white-board indices ....
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think if the teacher presses the
button 'Clear WB' we should honor that
request with deleting the files on the WB.
The files should not reappear on the WB.
If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file
then it should be removed from the file list.
I have included a picture that shows what
should be the equivalent logic in OM and
the Moodle plugin.
On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Yes
It is by design
Room files were designed to be loaded at the
time the room being accessed the first time
The main idea is: the teacher/organizer
should be able to check the room after the
lesson is over ....
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Deleting files from the list of room
files does not remove the files from
the WB in real time though , does it ?
On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
wrote:
No,
File are deleted from the list of room
files (can be checked in
Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
After files are deleted they with NOT
re-appear
So I see no area of improvement here
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel
Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You delete files from the WB then
they reappear. I think this is the
confusing aspect.
Can you please program it so that
you click delete then they are
deleted and do not reappear on the
WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
Thanks,
Dan
On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
I just have tested (using demo-next)
All objects including manually
added files and drawings are being
removed
THEN is there were room files they
will be loaded
So WB will look like on first enter
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12,
Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
The clean WB button does not
clean the files Maxim.
Nothing is removed from the WB.
On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim
Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
"Room files" is sort of
"auto-preload" list for the room
So if room is accesses for the
first time: these files will
be loaded to the room
On the second enter all WB
items including files and
drawings will remain "as-is"
You can use "Clean WB" button
this way all existing room
items (including drawings and
manually added items) will be
wiped out
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04,
Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Sorry for the repetition
but the logic is
difficult to grasp.
All I want to do is
delete a file from the
WB in real time. I can
not see how the logic
below achieves that.
You say it deletes file
from auto-pre-load. How
does that work?
On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM,
Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
I wrote you many, many
times: delete checkbox
only deletes files from
"auto pre-load"
Same way: you can
manually draw something
on WB, manually drop some
files to WB
Exit and enter the room
and you will see same WB
(with drawing and files)
You need to "wipe out"
the whole WB
Then it will be
re-created with new files
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at
10:43, Daniel Baker
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Ok so it is
possible to delete
files but the process
is rather
convoluted.
It makes me think
'remove' files check
box should have
beside it a button
that says 'delete
files and clean WB.
I created a video of
the process of
deleting files. It
seems
complicated. You can
view it in VLC media
player.
https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
Thanks
Dan
On 10/11/2019 9:14
PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
> Sorry to be harping
on about this but I
can't get this Real
> Time deletion to
work in OM 5.
>
> Can you please
advise how to make
the delete
functionality work.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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