Hello list,

the last days I've read a lot about web frameworks in java. And the more I 
read, the more questions I have. Just writing this down, maybe someone has 
some thoughts that can help me.

My problem is simple, or lets say it should be simple: What webframework is a 
good choice to start a new web application?

After all, JSF seams to be popular, it is supported by big vendors and it is a 
standard. My problem with JSF is that its way too basic in my eyes. It does 
not give me best practices, its just there and says: "use me". But it does 
not give me an idea how it is used best. But maybe I missed that. My feeling 
is that its a core technology like jsp ... someone should build a framework 
with it ...

I am missing this "framework" around JSF that does speed up development. Is 
shale meant to be this framework? It matured a lot since I last looked at it. 
But for me, it looks like its not really accepted - maybe I am wrong. Is 
shale what I am searching for?

There is JBoss Seam. I don't want to use jboss AS and not sure if its the best 
choice..

I looked at struts2 and it "feels" like it could be what I searched for. There 
is good documentation, many examples, an maven archetype, lots of users and 
the possibility to use third party technologies like freemarker. But my 
problem is that I am not sure if its not better to use JSF to be compatible 
with future technologies. There are a lot of ajax-components for example, and 
we can wait that a lot of third party libraries and tools will be 
available...

Is there a simple answer?


Regards,
        Piero

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