Good point, Thierry. The conversation has certainly taken a twist which makes it now belong to dev@.
@All, let's continue there. Thanks. On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Rabuel, Thierry <trab...@cora.fr> wrote: > Hi all, > > Despite the fact this subject is really interesting, could you please > notice that you are on the USERS' mailing-list and not the DEVS' one ? > > Best regards, > > Thierry > > 2015-09-04 16:59 GMT+02:00 Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com>: > > > The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - its > > understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick one > > destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear that we > > have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it to > GitHub > > ourselves ? > > > > > > > On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing list and > > > enlighten them. > > > Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-) > > > > > > > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > > > > > > // Pontus > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen <davidkarl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Why not github? > > >> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" <victor.n...@linagora.com > >: > > >> > > >>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge? > > >>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an Apache > > Project > > >>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision? > > >>> > > >>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp people > told > > SF > > >>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted during 2015: > > >>> > > >> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html > > >>> > > >> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html > > >>> > > >>> Victor > > >>> > > >>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit : > > >>> > > >>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache Extras > > >>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems to > point > > to > > >>>> SF > > >>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal preference) or > > >>>> Bitbucket. > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > > >>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open > > Source > > >>>> Integration specialist > > >>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > > >>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL < > victor.n...@linagora.com > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good solution? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by implanting > > adware > > >>>>> and > > >>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there. > > >>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project (that > > wasn't > > >>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> See > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >> > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ > > >>>>> for details. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Victor > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit : > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of > contributors > > >> for > > >>>>>> the project ? > > >>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project once it > has > > >>>>>> been > > >>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF > migration. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> // Pontus > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek <hekon...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being moved to > > the... > > >>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to maintain > the > > >>>>>>> project > > >>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < > > ullg...@gmail.com > > >>> > > >>>>>>> napisał: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing list no. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems to be in > > >>>>>>>> charge > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hey guys, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache Extras > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> migration? > > >>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras components... > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no > conclusion. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Maybe I > > >>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get very > chatty > > >>>>>>>> over > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > > >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, > Open > > >>>>>>>>> Source > > >>>>>>>>> Integration specialist > > >>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > > >>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren < > > ullg...@gmail.com > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems that Daniel Gruno is the one in > > >> charge > > >>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>> the move. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress or > > roadmap. > > >>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a option > in > > >> the > > >>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision. > > >>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the camel-dev > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [2] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> // Pontus > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger < > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have still > the > > >>>>>>>>>> backup > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> plan > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ... > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren < > > >> ullg...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows that it > will > > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> moved > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and the > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Apache > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> community > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any conclusion on > this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [2] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [3] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to read only > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wondered > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek > > >>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée et > > >> supportée > > >>>>> par Linagora. > > >>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre > entreprise. > > >>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée et > > supportée > > >>> par Linagora. > > >>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre entreprise. > > >>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com > > >>> > > >> > > > > >