Good point, Thierry. The conversation has certainly taken a twist which
makes it now belong to dev@.

@All, let's continue there.

Thanks.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Rabuel, Thierry <trab...@cora.fr> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Despite the fact this subject is really interesting, could you please
> notice that you are on the USERS' mailing-list and not the DEVS' one ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thierry
>
> 2015-09-04 16:59 GMT+02:00 Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com>:
>
> > The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - its
> > understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick one
> > destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear that we
> > have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it to
> GitHub
> > ourselves ?
> >
> >
> > > On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing list and
> > > enlighten them.
> > > Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E
> > >
> > > // Pontus
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen <davidkarl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Why not github?
> > >> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" <victor.n...@linagora.com
> >:
> > >>
> > >>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge?
> > >>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an Apache
> > Project
> > >>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision?
> > >>>
> > >>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp people
> told
> > SF
> > >>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted during 2015:
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html
> > >>>
> > >>> Victor
> > >>>
> > >>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit :
> > >>>
> > >>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache Extras
> > >>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems to
> point
> > to
> > >>>> SF
> > >>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal preference) or
> > >>>> Bitbucket.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *Raúl Kripalani*
> > >>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open
> > Source
> > >>>> Integration specialist
> > >>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
> > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> > >>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL <
> victor.n...@linagora.com
> > >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good solution?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by implanting
> > adware
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there.
> > >>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project (that
> > wasn't
> > >>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> See
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/
> > >>>>> for details.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Victor
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of
> contributors
> > >> for
> > >>>>>> the project ?
> > >>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project once it
> has
> > >>>>>> been
> > >>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF
> migration.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> // Pontus
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek <hekon...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being moved to
> > the...
> > >>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to maintain
> the
> > >>>>>>> project
> > >>>>>>> after  SourceForge migration.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren <
> > ullg...@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>> napisał:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing list no.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems to be in
> > >>>>>>>> charge
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> // Pontus
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache Extras
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> migration?
> > >>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras components...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no
> conclusion.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Maybe I
> > >>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get very
> chatty
> > >>>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani*
> > >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect,
> Open
> > >>>>>>>>> Source
> > >>>>>>>>> Integration specialist
> > >>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> > >>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren <
> > ullg...@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  From this thread[1]  it seems that Daniel Gruno is the one in
> > >> charge
> > >>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>> the move.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress or
> > roadmap.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a option
> in
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the camel-dev
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> mailinglist.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> // Pontus
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger <
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have still
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> backup
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> plan
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren <
> > >> ullg...@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows that it
> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> moved
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and the
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> community
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any conclusion on
> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to read only
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (
> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wondered
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek
> > >>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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