With all regards, we could do better, we really SHOULD have a footer with the 
link, and frankly the list serve we are using should honer the established 
standard of “unsubscribe” , if the software is not cabable  of this, we should 
move to using a package that can or google groups..  we can do better with 
this, and just using the excuse of RTFM or or blowing people off is not 
appropriate .  Never assume our users know how to get off of a list that uses 
non-standard methods….

This is a failure on our part.



> On May 29, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Brian Burch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 29/5/19 7:27 am, Dunn-Roberts, Richard R wrote:
>> I did state that I was used having that information in a footer, and was 
>> told to simply reply unsubscribe.  As far as the fucking manual goes, I did 
>> not know where that lives, either.
>> So, Emmanuel, I will NOW perform the correct fucking action, and send an 
>> email to [email protected].
>> Yours for direct, non-wimpified communication.
>> Richard Roberts
> 
> That was a very rude reaction, Richard. I hope the rest of your business 
> communications are more polite..
> 
> Emmanuel and his developer colleagues were very patient with you and the 
> other unsubscribers. Emannuel works very hard on this project and cares very 
> much about it, so the many clueless emails I have just waded through have 
> wasted all our valuable time.
> 
> We all know how to unsubscribe because we have been members of many other 
> automated mailing lists during our professional lives.
> 
> However, I simply typed "how to unsubscribe from an apache mailing list" into 
> google and was presented with a clear answer.
> 
> I have to conclude you preferred to trigger an argument, rather than do the 
> slightest amount of work.
> 
> Emmanuel is French, which you might not have noticed. RTFM is so much a part 
> of technical jargon and shorthand that he should NOT have been insulted with 
> genuine Anglo-Saxon expletives by a native English (American?) speaker. Shame 
> on you...
> 
> .. and goodbye from our mailing list.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neal Lawson <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:54 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Removal from list
>> Well there’s that, however most listservs’ do honer the age old Unsubscribe 
>> response, it seems this one is borked in this regard…. We should consider 
>> appending a footer with a link to the list’s homepage for easy reference!
>>> On May 28, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28/05/2019 18:59, Shawn McKinney wrote:
>>>>> On May 28, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Brad Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unsubscribe
>>>> What’s up with all of these unsubscribers?
>>> 
>>> They simply don't RTFM...
>>> 
>>> 
> 

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