Neal: Emmanuel and I have discussed our interaction, and, it ended with both of us apologizing for poor communications skills. đ
So, let me now apologize to the group for my poorly stated response. And, thanks for your understanding. May you all live in a world free of flame-wars. Richard Roberts -----Original Message----- From: Neal Lawson <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Dunn-Roberts, Richard R (US N-LEIDOS, INC.) <[email protected]> Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Removal from list With all regards, we could do better, we really SHOULD have a footer with the link, and frankly the list serve we are using should honer the established standard of âunsubscribeâ , if the software is not cabable of this, we should move to using a package that can or google groups.. we can do better with this, and just using the excuse of RTFM or or blowing people off is not appropriate . Never assume our users know how to get off of a list that uses non-standard methodsâŠ. This is a failure on our part. > On May 29, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Brian Burch > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On 29/5/19 7:27 am, Dunn-Roberts, Richard R wrote: >> I did state that I was used having that information in a footer, and was >> told to simply reply unsubscribe. As far as the fucking manual goes, I did >> not know where that lives, either. >> So, Emmanuel, I will NOW perform the correct fucking action, and send an >> email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. >> Yours for direct, non-wimpified communication. >> Richard Roberts > > That was a very rude reaction, Richard. I hope the rest of your business > communications are more polite.. > > Emmanuel and his developer colleagues were very patient with you and the > other unsubscribers. Emannuel works very hard on this project and cares very > much about it, so the many clueless emails I have just waded through have > wasted all our valuable time. > > We all know how to unsubscribe because we have been members of many other > automated mailing lists during our professional lives. > > However, I simply typed "how to unsubscribe from an apache mailing list" into > google and was presented with a clear answer. > > I have to conclude you preferred to trigger an argument, rather than do the > slightest amount of work. > > Emmanuel is French, which you might not have noticed. RTFM is so much a part > of technical jargon and shorthand that he should NOT have been insulted with > genuine Anglo-Saxon expletives by a native English (American?) speaker. Shame > on you... > > .. and goodbye from our mailing list. > > Brian > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Neal Lawson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:54 PM >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Removal from list Well thereâs that, however >> most listservsâ do honer the age old Unsubscribe response, it seems this one >> is borked in this regardâŠ. We should consider appending a footer with a link >> to the listâs homepage for easy reference! >>> On May 28, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Emmanuel LĂ©charny >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 28/05/2019 18:59, Shawn McKinney wrote: >>>>> On May 28, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Brad Dean >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe >>>> Whatâs up with all of these unsubscribers? >>> >>> They simply don't RTFM... >>> >>> >
