Thanks for this summation -
as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-)
Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi :)
> Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are
> for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The
> other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs.
>
> Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of
> the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on for
> each of the 2 main types.
>
> Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro might
> have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you
> choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other DE
> or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'.
> Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so he
> installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can use
> choose more apps.
>
> DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the rest
> (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able to
> use front-ends written for one or the other.
>
> Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles;
> 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really
> a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE) and
> Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully
> functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G
> (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain because
> the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach
> everyone.
> 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE
> makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined
> and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter it
> seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not
> quite enough of it for Tim's requirements.
> 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't that
> make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2 or 3
> different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can
> also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular
> amongst purists)
>
> I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going
> to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like about
> Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but
> somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each others
> achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough)
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
>
> Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is -
> and how to acquire it ...
> or is this something only for Linux users ;-)
>
> The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about
> these 'glorified-typewriters' :-)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jay,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately,
> >> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various
> >> drawings that can't be omitted.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >
> > what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself a
> > pdf then use pdftk.
> >
> > pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one.
> >
> > take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via
> pdftk.
> >
> > the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at
> > the same time very simple.
> >
> > Felmon
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com>
> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
> >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400
> >>
> >> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import
> many
> >>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a
> single
> >>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF file
> >>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file).
> >>>
> >>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page into
> >>> the document, but that is painful.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If not,
> >>> consider this a feature request.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What OS are you using?
> >>
> >> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text file
> >> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not
> >> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire file
> >> at once but would need to format the text.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > Felmon Davis
> >
>
>
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