No apologies necessary -
it was just me being 'cute' again ;-)
Your response might make sense to me after I figure out what's what
on that link - still studying it.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi :)
> Yes, sorry about that! When i started writing it all seemed clear in my
> mind but then somehow i got a bit lost after the 1st sentence and never
> found my way back to solid ground.
>
> Felmon's answer said much the same i think but was much shorter and
> clearer. Plus the link too. Altogether much better!
> Apols and regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>
> *Cc:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" <
> users@global.libreoffice.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:23
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
>
> Thanks for this summation -
> as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-)
>
> Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
> >wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> > Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are
> > for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The
> > other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs.
> >
> > Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of
> > the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on
> for
> > each of the 2 main types.
> >
> > Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro
> might
> > have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you
> > choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other
> DE
> > or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'.
> > Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so
> he
> > installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can
> use
> > choose more apps.
> >
> > DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the
> rest
> > (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able
> to
> > use front-ends written for one or the other.
> >
> > Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles;
> > 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really
> > a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE)
> and
> > Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully
> > functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G
> > (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain
> because
> > the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach
> > everyone.
> > 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE
> > makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined
> > and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter
> it
> > seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not
> > quite enough of it for Tim's requirements.
> > 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't
> that
> > make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2
> or 3
> > different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can
> > also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular
> > amongst purists)
> >
> > I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going
> > to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like
> about
> > Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but
> > somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each
> others
> > achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough)
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> > *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>
> > *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> > *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
>
> >
> > Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is -
> > and how to acquire it ...
> > or is this something only for Linux users ;-)
> >
> > The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about
> > these 'glorified-typewriters' :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Jay,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately,
> > >> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various
> > >> drawings that can't be omitted.
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >>
> > >
> > > what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself
> a
> > > pdf then use pdftk.
> > >
> > > pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one.
> > >
> > > take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via
> > pdftk.
> > >
> > > the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at
> > > the same time very simple.
> > >
> > > Felmon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com>
> > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
> > >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400
> > >>
> > >> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import
> > many
> > >>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a
> > single
> > >>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF
> file
> > >>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file).
> > >>>
> > >>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page
> into
> > >>> the document, but that is painful.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If
> not,
> > >>> consider this a feature request.
> > >>>
> > >>> David
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> What OS are you using?
> > >>
> > >> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text
> file
> > >> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not
> > >> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire
> file
> > >> at once but would need to format the text.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > --
> > > Felmon Davis
> > >
>
>
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