Hi Anne :) Really don't worry about my answer! I kinda wish i could pull it! it's becoming quite interesting but is sooo far off-topic and tangential that it's not even in orbit of anything anymore. Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" ><users@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 21:46 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem > > > > No apologies necessary - > it was just me being 'cute' again ;-) > > Your response might make sense to me after I figure out what's what on >that link - still studying it. > > > > > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >Hi :) >>Yes, sorry about that! When i started writing it all seemed clear in my mind >>but then somehow i got a bit lost after the 1st sentence and never found my >>way back to solid ground. >> >>Felmon's answer said much the same i think but was much shorter and clearer. >>Plus the link too. Altogether much better! >>Apols and regards from >>Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >>>To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>Cc: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" >>><users@global.libreoffice.org> >>>Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:23 >>> >>>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for this summation - >>> as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) >>> >>> Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me. >>> >>> >>> >>>On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: >>> >>>Hi :) >>>> Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are >>>> for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The >>>> other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs. >>>> >>>> Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of >>>> the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on for >>>> each of the 2 main types. >>>> >>>> Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro might >>>> have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you >>>> choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other DE >>>> or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'. >>>> Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so he >>>> installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can use >>>> choose more apps. >>>> >>>> DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the rest >>>> (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able to >>>> use front-ends written for one or the other. >>>> >>>> Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles; >>>> 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really >>>> a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE) and >>>> Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully >>>> functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G >>>> (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain because >>>> the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach >>>> everyone. >>>> 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE >>>> makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined >>>> and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter it >>>> seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not >>>> quite enough of it for Tim's requirements. >>>> 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't that >>>> make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2 or 3 >>>> different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can >>>> also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular >>>> amongst purists) >>>> >>>> I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going >>>> to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like about >>>> Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but >>>> somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each others >>>> achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough) >>>> Regards from >>>> Tom :) >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> >>>> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29 >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >>> >>>> >>>> Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is - >>>> and how to acquire it ... >>>> or is this something only for Linux users ;-) >>>> >>>> The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about >>>> these 'glorified-typewriters' :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Hi Jay, >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately, >>>> >> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various >>>> >> drawings that can't be omitted. >>>> >> >>>> >> David >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself a >>>> > pdf then use pdftk. >>>> > >>>> > pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one. >>>> > >>>> > take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via >>>> pdftk. >>>> > >>>> > the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at >>>> > the same time very simple. >>>> > >>>> > Felmon >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com> >>>> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>> >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >>>> >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400 >>>> >> >>>> >> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import >>>> many >>>> >>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a >>>> single >>>> >>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF file >>>> >>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file). >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page into >>>> >>> the document, but that is painful. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If not, >>>> >>> consider this a feature request. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> David >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> What OS are you using? >>>> >> >>>> >> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text file >>>> >> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not >>>> >> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire file >>>> >> at once but would need to format the text. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > -- >>>> > Felmon Davis >>>> > >>> > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
