Hi :) Yes, sorry about that! When i started writing it all seemed clear in my mind but then somehow i got a bit lost after the 1st sentence and never found my way back to solid ground.
Felmon's answer said much the same i think but was much shorter and clearer. Plus the link too. Altogether much better! Apols and regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" ><users@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:23 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem > > > Thanks for this summation - > as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) > > Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me. > > > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > >Hi :) >> Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are >> for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The >> other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs. >> >> Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of >> the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on for >> each of the 2 main types. >> >> Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro might >> have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you >> choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other DE >> or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'. >> Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so he >> installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can use >> choose more apps. >> >> DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the rest >> (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able to >> use front-ends written for one or the other. >> >> Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles; >> 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really >> a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE) and >> Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully >> functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G >> (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain because >> the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach >> everyone. >> 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE >> makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined >> and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter it >> seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not >> quite enough of it for Tim's requirements. >> 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't that >> make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2 or 3 >> different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can >> also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular >> amongst purists) >> >> I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going >> to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like about >> Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but >> somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each others >> achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough) >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >> *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> >> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org >> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29 >> >> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >> >> Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is - >> and how to acquire it ... >> or is this something only for Linux users ;-) >> >> The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about >> these 'glorified-typewriters' :-) >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Hi Jay, >> >> >> >> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately, >> >> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various >> >> drawings that can't be omitted. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> > >> > what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself a >> > pdf then use pdftk. >> > >> > pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one. >> > >> > take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via >> pdftk. >> > >> > the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at >> > the same time very simple. >> > >> > Felmon >> > >> > >> > >> >> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com> >> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >> >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400 >> >> >> >> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import >> many >> >>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a >> single >> >>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF file >> >>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file). >> >>> >> >>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page into >> >>> the document, but that is painful. >> >>> >> >>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If not, >> >>> consider this a feature request. >> >>> >> >>> David >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> What OS are you using? >> >> >> >> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text file >> >> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not >> >> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire file >> >> at once but would need to format the text. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> > Felmon Davis >> > >> >> > >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
