Hi :) I forgot the original question! I got carried away on the tangent Anne started (always best to blame someone else. Right?) by asking "what is tk?" lol Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 21:53 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem > > >On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote: > >> Thanks for this summation - > >I wonder what the original question was? I seem to have missed a part >of the exchange. > >> as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) >> >> Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me. > >I hope it can be of help; I've only ever used the Linux version but I >imagine they aren't too different. > >F. > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: >> >> Hi :) >>> Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are >>> for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The >>> other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs. >>> >>> Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of >>> the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on for >>> each of the 2 main types. >>> >>> Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro might >>> have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you >>> choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other DE >>> or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'. >>> Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so he >>> installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can use >>> choose more apps. >>> >>> DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the rest >>> (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able to >>> use front-ends written for one or the other. >>> >>> Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles; >>> 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really >>> a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE) and >>> Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully >>> functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G >>> (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain because >>> the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach >>> everyone. >>> 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE >>> makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined >>> and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter it >>> seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not >>> quite enough of it for Tim's requirements. >>> 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't that >>> make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2 or 3 >>> different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can >>> also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular >>> amongst purists) >>> >>> I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going >>> to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like about >>> Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but >>> somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each others >>> achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough) >>> Regards from >>> Tom :) >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> >>> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org >>> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29 >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >>> >>> Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is - >>> and how to acquire it ... >>> or is this something only for Linux users ;-) >>> >>> The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about >>> these 'glorified-typewriters' :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Jay, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately, >>>>> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various >>>>> drawings that can't be omitted. >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>> >>>> what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself a >>>> pdf then use pdftk. >>>> >>>> pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one. >>>> >>>> take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via >>> pdftk. >>>> >>>> the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at >>>> the same time very simple. >>>> >>>> Felmon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem >>>>> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import >>> many >>>>>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a >>> single >>>>>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF file >>>>>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file). >>>>>> >>>>>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page into >>>>>> the document, but that is painful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If not, >>>>>> consider this a feature request. >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What OS are you using? >>>>> >>>>> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text file >>>>> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not >>>>> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire file >>>>> at once but would need to format the text. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Felmon Davis >>>> >>> >>> >> > >-- >Felmon Davis > >Your mode of life will be changed for the better because of new developments. > >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
