Dave, At the beginning of this year, I warned both you and Rayson (who was already the owner of the Open Grid Scheduler project - as I was busy with my personal commitments) to be aware of a company that never contributed anything to SGE and suddently poped up and wanted to be the owner of the open source Grid Engine project - this is not "I told you so", but rather I am glad that another person is now fully aware of why I was so worried and against Univa from touching our fork.
While we are competitors fighting for open source Grid Engine "market share", I don't recall using FUD tactics against Son of Grid Engine or against Dave personally - at least I hope I did not! If Univa is serious about open source grid engine development, can Univa please leave the BS aside, and open source some of *their* code - including UniSight and UniCloud? While we know that there is ARCo & StarCluster, this is the request from a long time SGE contributor who really wanted to see Univa contribute something real, as Univa is benefiting from my contributions in Grid Engine, making money from my contributions in Grid Engine. The few things I really wanted to remind everyone: 1) At the beginning of this year on the Grid Engine steering committee mailing list, I could feel the urgency from Univa that it really wanted to eliminate all the open source GE forks - I felt that their goal was to remove all versions of Grid Engine, including SoGE & OGS by asking us to merge with them, and then fight Oracle by using FUD tactics (see the "Compatible as of today" discussions earlier). 2) When I asked for Univa's LSF migration scripts, the reply I got (which was sent to the steering list as well) from Bill Bryce was: > however one item to keep in mind is we use these scripts and > tools to make life difficult for Platform. As you > know from experience Platform is very good at creating > FUD - just before we announced that we would be hiring the > GE guys and working with the community they were > aggressively (and I mean every one we talked to) attempting > to displace Grid Engine from existing customers including > very long time GE customers with aggressive pricing and > generally spreading 'bad information'. I think in English there is a saying, "The pot calling the kettle black"! 3) Then they set up this Grid Engine comparsion page, which really insults lots of people who had put lots of effort into Grid Engine in the past. http://www.univa.com/products/grid-engine-comparison 4) Fritz was telling customers (including William Hay) that open source Grid Engine is "buggy, unstable, hard to debug", and to use SGE in production customers need to buy support from Univa. 5) And finally, now that Univa learns that I have not intention to let OGS merge with Univa's fork, it is implementing the features that we announced *quicker* than our official release, including hwloc & the newer GPU integration. So it is trying to fight us by beating us in time to market. -Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Love <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: [gridengine users] Beware Univa FUD I've no idea why they feel the need to attack underhandedly -- specifically amongst colleagues and potential employers -- the professional reputation of someone who mis-guidedly offered support, but others should beware. [Apologies not to have been able to respond to things here recently, and there seems to be plenty that needs a response if I can find time. Anyhow, now for something more constructive.] _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users
