Dave,

you might have wanted to check with me first before you post such messages.

If you check your exchanges with me from the beginning of this year then you 
will find that I had pointed out to you that not all of what you have 
integrated in the Son of Grid Engine project is kosher. Just because it was 
accessible from a site offering code under an open source license doesn't mean 
all of its content on that site is under that same license. You still have to 
look at the fine print. In particular you have to check whether things are 
redistributable and may come with copyright issues before you start providing 
them.

The code was open source and under the SISSL and certain binaries were under a 
binary code license that made them redistributable but other pieces, like parts 
of the documentation for instance, are a different matter.

We've turned every stone before defining the basis for our Univa Grid Engine 
work because we do indemnify our customers and partners from legal allegations 
from 3rd parties and we would be liable. I neither want users of Grid Engine 
nor those who provide any version to be in trouble so I suggest everybody does 
some homework.

Cheers,

Fritz

Am 09.11.2011 um 19:14 schrieb Dave Love:

> I've been told that Univa have been giving customers a "health warning"
> to avoid Son of Grid Engine, the community distribution.  They claim I'm
> distributing Sun proprietary material, and am lucky Oracle lawyers
> haven't descended yet.
> 
> Actually, the Sun material is all from the defunct sunsource.net under a
> free licence
> <https://arc.liv.ac.uk/trac/SGE/wiki/WikiStart#CopyrightandNaming>, used
> in the spirit of the old project manifesto; see also archive.org.
> Oracle even offered to supply it directly.  I can't see anything of
> Sun's the gridengine team (now at Univa?) are likely to have put there
> inadvertently, but that would be Oracle's problem and presumably Univa's
> if it was in the gridengine or arco repo.  As far as I know, the only
> SGE-related proprietary stuff even accessible to non-customers is/was
> obsolete binaries -- whose licence Sun/Oracle people effectively told us
> to ignore anyway -- and the old documentation/blueprints.
> 
> I've no idea why they feel the need to attack underhandedly --
> specifically amongst colleagues and potential employers -- the
> professional reputation of someone who mis-guidedly offered support, but
> others should beware.
> 
> [Apologies not to have been able to respond to things here recently, and
> there seems to be plenty that needs a response if I can find time.
> Anyhow, now for something more constructive.]
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