@Mario Very good thoughts, I really like the idea that an award is permanent, I believe that goes for Java Champs as well.
Naming wise, Groovyssimo is fun, but not naming material for an award :-) But we need to narrow down the name-space to something realistic that can be voted on. On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 08:50 Mario Garcia <mario.g...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 to what Guillaume said :) Common guys! Lets focus on what we think is a > great language and let others think what they want! > > Regarding the duration of the award. I've though about it, trying not to > think in terms of annually or permanent, but trying to see what's out there > outside the CS world, and I ended up thinking on the Nobel prize. I'd like > some ideas of Nobel prize: > > - Takes place every year > - A given prize could be vacant a given year. > - It's so important that it's really noticeable to be awarded > - Makes people very proud of some achievement they did a given year > - Once you're a Nobel you will always be a Nobel. > - Of course there's been awarded people that even rejected the prize > but that never really underrated the prize overtime > - New members are chosen by previous members and some other relevant > people (members of the parliament among others). Here I'd add the idea > of letting anybody to propose a nominee, but leaving the final decision to > the prize committee (whatever we decide who is in) > > Despite the difference of content between the Nobel prize and the Groovy > awards, after reviewing these points I think they seem to fit better in the > Groovy Champions/Stars idea. There is also something I haven't heard yet. I > guess this will require a kind of permanent organization, e.g. to contact > members, nominees, organize the awards, a web to show the winners...etc > > BTW: Here you have another naming for the awards: Groovisimo Awards. Can > you imaging a "Groovisimo" statue like the Oscars ? It would be a blast > XDDDD > > My two cents > Mario > > 2018-02-25 10:53 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com>: > >> James Stachan's quote has really been taken out of context, and >> over-exagerated bu the Scala-fanboys. >> If Scala had been what it is now, James would probably not have initiated >> Groovy *then*. But Scala was nascent just like Groovy *then*. >> It's like if Gavin King had said that he wouldn't have invented Hibernate >> if JPA had existed... but JPA came ten years later. >> >> This quote was really harmful, but as the saying goes, lots of water's >> gone through the bridges since then. >> >> There's still the myth of slowliness, which we all know is not true >> anymore, even in pure dynamic mode (without even mentioning static >> compilation) >> Usually, you spend way more time in network latency (access to remote >> resources, access to database, etc) than waiting for the CPU spent by just >> the pure language execution time. >> >> Also back on James Strachan: he went to play with Scala, then with >> Kotlin, and has come back to using Groovy. >> He's using Groovy on a regular basis through his work with Jenkins, its >> pipelines, etc. >> So he's back at his old love! >> >> So let's turn the page on those stories, please. >> >> Guillaume >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Daniel Sun <realblue...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The creator of Groovy said "I can honestly say if someone had shown me >>> the >>> Programming in Scala book...". I think he compared Scala with the old >>> version of Groovy he created in about 2003. As we all know, Groovy has >>> evolved a lot, so I never care about others' out-dated opinions on >>> Groovy :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Daniel.Sun >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Guillaume Laforge >> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President >> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform >> >> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ >> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+ >> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts> >> > > -- Best regards / Med venlig hilsen, Søren Berg Glasius Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
