On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Nathan Lutchansky wrote:

> > If this is due to a buggy behavior of a particular server
> > implementation, we should ask the vendor to fix it.  If it has already
> > been fixed, we should ask the administrator (bbc.co.uk in this case)
> > to upgrade the server.  And, if this is (unfortunately) common to some
> > extent, we'll have to add some workaround in resolver libraries.
>
> I poked around BBC's DNS some more.  It looks like they have custom DNS
> software running on ns0.thny.bbc.co.uk and ns0.thdo.bbc.co.uk which are
> the authoritative servers for bbc.net.uk.  A `dig` is revealing:

[edited out for length...]

> I'm not sure whether this is custom DNS software written by BBC, or
> written by Sun who supplied the load-balancing clustering system to BBC.
> I'm guessing BBC wrote it, because otherwise we'd be seeing this problem
> on other sites that use Sun clusters, and AFAIK, BBC is the only one.

i've come accross the problem elsewhere. it's probably written custom for
the BBC, in which case it'll be harder to get them to fix it.

sadly, we're a small group of users, and probably the only ones to
complain, let alone see the problem.

> I wrote to the address in the SOA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) last week, but I
> haven't received an answer.  I don't expect to.
>
> I beg implementors, please don't add a workaround for this!  As soon as
> resolvers begin to work around it, the problem becomes permanent.
> Unfortunately, if a workaround gets added to Microsoft's resolver, we'll
> all have to follow suit.  :-(  -Nathan

my thought/solution to this problem is just mine, and is just temporary.
the only other solution i've found to be effective is to grab the host
info through the native "host" command, or forcing a request for an "A"
record..

  [jan@hi jan] {6} host -t a news.bbc.co.uk
  news.bbc.co.uk is a nickname for newswww.bbc.net.uk
  newswww.bbc.net.uk has address 212.58.240.36
  newswww.bbc.net.uk has address 212.58.240.35

and then going ahead and doing a connection.

since bbc.co.uk has a feedback form for the site (heh) i've gone ahead and
contacted them through that. we'll see if i get an answer..

-- johan

-------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
  http://caustic.org/~jan                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    "John Ashcroft is really just the reanimated corpse
         of J. Edgar Hoover." -- Tim Triche

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