On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:33:53 +0200 Frantisek Hanzlik <fra...@hanzlici.cz> wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 > > Frantisek Hanzlik <fra...@hanzlici.cz> wrote: > >> > >> - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) > >> init? > > > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > > > If you want Fedora to have an alternative init, roll up your sleeves > > and dig in, make it happen! ;-) > > > > :-)alternative init > > Marko > > Marko thanks to Your reply, but: > - All around perhaps are not happy, as I'm not. And perhaps all those, > who do not have the ability to say it here. > > - about 'alternative init' what can you recommend to me to make this > happen? I must say, I'm not programmer, rather user and administrator > for several Linux/Un*x machines. But I really want somehow interest > in this issue. I guess the smileys I put up there didn't do their job. My comment above was tongue-in-cheek. It is the type of the response one gets from systemd-advocates whenever a question similar to yours pops up on this list. The init system is not just any old package that you can replace on your system. Rather, it is an integral piece of gear, interwoven with the kernel and a whole bunch of other mission-critical apps for any Linux distro. In this sense, changing one init system for another is a highly nontrivial task, and requires expert knowledge of all sorts of under-the-hood stuff in Linux. There are not so many people on the planet who have the knowledge to actually sit down and write an in-place substitute for systemd. That is why there is no alternative for Fedora. In other words, if you want to make an alternative init system, you need to be somewhat like Lennart Poettering. And he is a tough act to follow, in more ways than one... ;-) My approach to this issue has been to learn to live with systemd, and hope that the reasons for its existence will ultimately be of global benefit. It's the same frame of mind one has when paying taxes --- they're unavoidable, painful for the individual, and are supposed to be beneficial for the progress of the community (although that's not immediately obvious to the individual). I do this by learning about systemd on-the-fly --- as much as I need to get my job done, and never any more than that. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
