OK, all your arguments make sense and I now understand that I was a bit narrow-minded about that. I also agree that digging into mailing list archives is not a very comfortable way to get help.
If you already worked on some sort of a RoundCube board and have webspace available, I agree to open an "official" web-based forum/board. Alternatively we could use the SourceForge webspace with MySQL database (if phpBB doesn't need sockets). I currently don't have time to work on something like that but I can offer to create a DNS entry for the forum host or give away access to the SF space. Thanks for all your effort! Thomas Brett Patterson wrote: > I was actually in the midst of making a phpBB 2.0 template based off of > RoundCube. Maybe I'll continue it later, but I'm totally available to > setup a phpBB board (with unlimited bandwidth) at my personal site. All > I'd need was the okay of the Admins..... > > Could be done as early or late as today/tomorrow.... > > ~Brett > > Robbie Garrett wrote: >> The other thing you have to think about here is... >> >> >> If people are using RC on a webhost. And there mail is also included >> with there webhost. And the only forum of help is email. >> That\'s taking up there allowed bandwith. Which sucks. >> >> i\'m 100% for forums. You made some really good points here. And i >> honestly feel that the people should make a forum. Weither it\'s >> supported by RC or not. This project has a good ways to go, with >> unlimited endings and modifications. >> >> On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:29:33 +0000, Geoffrey McCaleb >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Thomas, >>> With all due respect, a forum is not for you, its for the users. I know >>> that sounds rude, but it isn\'t! A wiki is a great replacement for >>> documentation, but Roundcube still needs a way to provide support to >>> users >>> who need help. Wiki\'s are not the place for asking questions, but as >>> a sort >>> of end point of all user and system knowledge. >>> >>> If mailing lists are your preferred way to communicate for the >>> community, >>> then thats great! But what you need out of communication, is different >>> from how I, for example, use it. Me? I personally loath mailing lists >>> because my inbox gets stuffed with loads of threads, some I may be >>> able to >>> help with, some not. Also, if I unsubscribe, then I have to hack through >>> the archive to see what I missed. What if I want to respond to a >>> particular thread? Then I have to go through the process to subscribe >>> again. With a forum, you chose what you get involved with, and if you >>> leave its easy to pick back up again later. >>> >>> But crucially, with a forum, you can do two things: first it cuts >>> down on >>> mailing list traffic because users have a different outlet for their >>> queries. Second, over time the knowledge available on threads can be >>> pushed upwards into the wiki. Over time, the wiki will still become the >>> defacto knowledge center. >>> >>> If you think about it, you have two fundamental streams of people. >>> Developers and Users. Most Open Source projects keep these streams >>> separate for a reason. >>> >>> Users: forums -> wiki >>> Developers: mailing lists -> wiki >>> >>> With of course bug tracking working across the both. >>> >>> Anyway, all I\'ll say is I\'m open for people to disagree, as long as >>> they >>> understand that the two streams can and should be seperate. I don\'t >>> see >>> why the two can\'t co-exist peacefully. I mean, if you asked us, I\'m >>> sure >>> there would be agreement that the developers should lurk where they feel >>> most comfortable. I mean, without them (and you Thomas), there would >>> be no >>> Roundcube!! >>> >>> Thoughts anyone? >>> >>> Geoffrey >>> >>> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:59:12 +0100, Thomas Bruederli >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> I am happy to setup and host a forum, as long as there is a consensus >>>>> >>>> that it is needed. I have no desire to splinter the community though. >>>> >>>> The decision to use mailing lists was made some time ago and I don\'t >>>> like to have multiple forums that I need to check periodically. >>>> > >
