Really? I don't doubt you but the whole point of Ajax is to introduce more 
separation between presentation and logic. Maybe this is just me, but I've 
never seen a phpbb forum that I could call quick. 

I'm probably caught up in semantics, but I think its a shame a slick Web 2.0 
product like RC doesn't utilise an efficient, Ajax-based BB as well.

My 2 cents,

Geoffrey

On 09/03/06 21:25, Brady J. Frey wrote:
> By more powerful, I don't mean in regards to features -- I've just seen 
> phpBB handle a heavier amount of users much more easily than Vanilla.
> 
> Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:
> > Hmm, not sure I would agree with that. PHPbb can't handle saved searches, 
and 
> > doesn't support RSS if I remember correctly. 
> >
> > On 09/03/06 21:10, Brady J. Frey wrote:
> >   
> >> I will say that phpBB is much more powerful -- Vanilla couldn't handle 
> >> some of the advanced stuff that high end forums do, but porting over a 
> >> style... I don't know if that would be easy. You might find it faster to 
> >> just create the CSS to mimic the style of his look/feel.
> >>
> >> Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Yeah, Vanilla seriously cooks with gas. You can have RSS out the wazoo, 
> >>>       
> > clean 
> >   
> >>> xhtml code, and each user can have their own stylesheet! 
> >>>
> >>> Brett was mentioning he was in the process of building a template for 
> >>>       
> > phpbb. I 
> >   
> >>> wonder if it could be ported over easily?
> >>>
> >>> Geoffrey
> >>>
> >>> On 09/03/06 21:05, Brady J. Frey wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Oooh, fun -- now we can CSS that baby to our hearts content, bless you 
> >>>> Geoffrey...
> >>>>
> >>>> Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>> Well give the people what they want I always say!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've installed a simple forum on a domain I run to test it out with 
the 
> >>>>> community. If we all like it and Thomas is happy, we can look into 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> pointing a 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> subdomain towards it. Or, we can migrate it over to SF. Either way is 
> >>>>>           
> > cool 
> >   
> >>>>> with me. My server has loads of bandwidth so I'm happy to host it for 
> >>>>>           
> > the 
> >   
> >>>>> time being.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The system isn't based on PHPBB. I thought it fitting that since 
> >>>>>           
> > Roundcube 
> >   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> was 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> the first major Open Source webmail system born in the Web 2.0 
> >>>>>           
> > generation, 
> >   
> >>>>> that the forum should be to. Its called Vanilla, and it has a lot of 
> >>>>>           
> > great 
> >   
> >>>>> features as well as a great community behind it (like ours). 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The forum is here: http://roundforums.verada.net
> >>>>> If you want more information on Vanilla, go here: 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> http://www.getvanilla.com/
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> If anyone wants to volunteer to moderate a category, feel free to 
email 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> me. 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> Any comments on the forum itself, please reply to all. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Geoffrey
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 09/03/06 16:42, GunFro wrote:
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Hi all.
> >>>>>> I just want to agree that a forum would be great, it's fun getting 
mail 
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> but...
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> RC is just the best.
> >>>>>> Se You around.
> >>>>>> /Gunnar
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:38:20 -0800, "Brady J. Frey" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> ..and if you don't want the burden, I'm happy to pop it under my
> >>>>>>> hosting too, and promote as needed. I can probably get some web
> >>>>>>> developers who teach with me on codingforums.com to come over and 
try 
> >>>>>>>               
> > to
> >   
> >>>>>>> answer some CSS/XHTML/HTML/Design/PHP/MySQL questions, or cross post 
> >>>>>>>               
> > to
> >   
> >>>>>>> them, or get CSS Beauty in the mix. Either way, a forum would be 
> >>>>>>>               
> > useful.
> >   
> >>>>>>> *Brady J. Frey*
> >>>>>>> creative director // *dotfive*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Brett Patterson wrote:
> >>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> You mentioned something about giving away space on SF for the 
forum.
> >>>>>>>> I'm willing to head up the forum aspect (I don't have much on the 
> >>>>>>>>                 
> > skin
> >   
> >>>>>>>> yet, but I can work on it in my free time (would be a pleasure!!)) 
> >>>>>>>>                 
> > and
> >   
> >>>>>>>> manage it.  Of course the devs would have access to "restricted" 
> >>>>>>>>                 
> > areas
> >   
> >>>>>>>> of moderation/administration, or however you want to do it.  Just 
let
> >>>>>>>> me know what you need to allow me in, and I'll give it to you!  My
> >>>>>>>> email on Sf is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (no quotes).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was initially going to use roundcube.bpatterson.net as the
> >>>>>>>> forum-space; but if SF wants to host it, fine by me.  Either will 
> >>>>>>>>                 
> > work
> >   
> >>>>>>>> in my honest opinion.  But SF would make it look more official.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Eagerly awaiting your reply!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ~Brett
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thomas Bruederli wrote:
> >>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>> Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>> I last banged on about this last December if memory serves, but 
why
> >>>>>>>>>> exactly is there no support forums for Roundcube yet? I know the
> >>>>>>>>>> developers wish to keep the mailing list going for development
> >>>>>>>>>> threads, but surely we all agree that mailing lists are not the 
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> > best
> >   
> >>>>>>>>>> vehicle for end user support?
> >>>>>>>>>> I know there was talk of setting up a wiki, but I haven't seen 
any
> >>>>>>>>>> sight of it yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>> The Wiki is on progress. Actually the wiki is ready but it's part 
of 
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> > a
> >   
> >>>>>>>>> Trac system that also hosts the source repository and integrates a
> >>>>>>>>> bug-tracker. These are both not yet properly configured. You can 
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> > start
> >   
> >>>>>>>>> filling up the Wiki with useful information: 
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> > http://trac.roundcube.net
> >   
> >>>>>>>>> but remember that the tracker and the source repository are not
> >>>>>>>>> up-to-date.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>> I am happy to setup and host a forum, as long as there is a
> >>>>>>>>>> consensus that it is needed. I have no desire to splinter the
> >>>>>>>>>> community though.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>> The decision to use mailing lists was made some time ago and I 
don't
> >>>>>>>>> like to have multiple forums that I need to check periodically.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone else agree? Or is this being worked on separately?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Geoffrey
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>   
> >>>       
> 
> 
> 


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