* Jonathon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [130205, 17:21]:
> Ennio Sr wrote:
> 
> > Wouldn't a database be a better choice?
> 
> Perhaps. 
> 
> I need a visual display of each glyph, and the Unicode #.

The easiest way to achieve that - to the best of my present knowledge -
is using Insert > Special Characters (although you cannot compare more
tables altogether), where you get glyphs and hex code.
> 
> > In which context are you obtaining these result and pressing which keys?
> 
> Spreadsheet cells either are "= Char(cell_number)" or
> "=cell_number + 1".  cell_number is the cell position.  e3, p245, etc.
> 
OK: "=Char(cell_number) where 'cell_number' can be a1, a2 ... yealds
nothing at my end! However I found another way which works:

1. Put number 33 in cell A1
2. Hold mouse left key on the right bottom end of cell A1 box and drag
   the mouse pointer down the column, say up to cell A300: as you might
   already know, you get the series of natural numbers from 33 to 300.
3. Go to B1 and input "=char(A1)"
4. Drag B1 down to B300 (as in 2.): and you get all available glyphs
   relating to the font selected in the upper bar.

Of course, this can be done for subsequent columns, each one formatted
to use a different font ...
I only tested 'Arial' and (after changing layout) 'ArabicZibaSSK' but it
should work for other fonts and layouts, that you certainly have.

On my box, using Arial, I get glyphs from char(33) to char(126), small
boxes from 127 up to 255 and then all err 502; whereas using ArabicZIba
there are also some 'holes' (e.g. char 45,60,61,62,63 yeald nothing)
whcih might be the 'holes' you talked about.

I could not test more as I got lost in the meanders of charmaps,
charset, unicode, UTF-8, ACM, consolechars, layout and similars ... :-)

> If I were to manually insert them, it would be ">Insert >Special
> Character"for all 64Kof the Basic Unicode Plane.
> 

See above ?

> 
> > I've just tested it in a Debian/Sarge to discover that there 
> 
> a) Not on Linux.
> b) Can one easily change the font that it uses/displays?
> 
I tried that for Arabic only; I do remember reading some documents where
an example was made using three different layouts: pressing 
ALT+SHIFT keys (or any other combination or single key of your choice)
would switch from to another, progressively; this means you could not
jump AFAIK from say layout 1 to 3 but should pass through layout 2 as
well, so that if you have 10 different layouts it could be a sort of a
mess ;)

> 
> > Or, perhaps, it would be enough, for what you want to see,
> > 1. enter OOo
> > 2. choose Insert -> Special characters and look for missing 
> 
> Since it doesn't allow one to jump to specific code points, it is not
> suitable. [You have to  get the number for each glyph, to find which
> one's are missing.

I do agree it's too clumsy: the holes are not immediately visible and
have to be discovered clicking in turn on each gliph.
Wait ... while checking for the holes I realized that the glyphs shown
in the Insert/Special Chars table differ from those displayed in my
test spreadsheet as said above and looking more closely at these, they
do not correspond at all to those I'm accustomed to when I write them on
a Document! ;(.

> What I'm hoping to do, is to be able to scroll
> through fonts, and see the missing glyphs instantly.
> 
> > What is that? (I mean the Private Use Area) :-)
> 
> It is a part of the Basic Unicode Plane, that is set aside for
> non-standard glyphs.  Any character can be placed there, with the
> knowledge that those characters will not be the same glyph on other
> fonts.  Code2000 has Klingon, The Alphabet of the Magi, the Writing of
> the Rivers, and part of the Plane 1 character set situated there.
> 
Uhm, these may be chars from 127 to 159, for example, report by unicode
as being Control Characters ...

Regards,
       Ennio,
       realizing he's not been very helpful ;-(

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